"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Lose interest in girls after sleeping with them

Matt Rogers

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For some reason every time I sleep with a girl I lose interest in her. It is not even as if I am just looking to sleep with them. When I date a girl it is because I am interested in her and hope that I will end up liking her and that it will develop into a relationship.

I am trying to work out why this is and was wondering if anyone else had the same problem and could offer some insight?

I've had a few theories:

1) Maybe I am jumping into bed with them too soon before I have the chance to develop any actual feelings for them. Although generally I end up going to bed with a girl within 3-5 dates, if I am looking for a relationship maybe I should wait a bit longer.

2) Maybe it is just the girl and if I meet the right girl I won't lose interest after sex.

3) Maybe subconsciously my interest in them was only ever physical and I only figured this out once I had satisfied my lust.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Your theories sound pretty good... I'd say it is definately one or a combination of them.

Don't stress. It happens.

It won't last forever and when some beauty is stomping on your heart you'll wish you were back in this happy place again.

JJ
 
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This iis my mantra - Hors are for sex - not to be loved or cherished!! Good luck finding a woman who is not physically or mentally corrupted!!!
 

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Last Man Standing said:
This iis my mantra - Hors are for sex - not to be loved or cherished!! Good luck finding a woman who is not physically or mentally corrupted!!!
Lol, man I love your style, so uncompromising. :D

At 44 though, I thought you might have grown out of referring to the female of the species as "hors"...

To be fair though...most (but not all) of them are.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You probably just like the actual conquest of the girl and once she gives in, you have satisfied that conquest and want another.
 

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I think it's number 3. I kinda have that happen sometimes.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
This iis my mantra - Hors are for sex - not to be loved or cherished!! Good luck finding a woman who is not physically or mentally corrupted!!!
“Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.”

Friedrich Nietsche (1900)
 

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L777 said:
At 44 though, I thought you might have grown out of referring to the female of the species as "hors"...

To be fair though...most (but not all) of them are.
Ive never seen someone so hung up on one attribute of a person. Its just sex but LMS thinks its far more than that.

A woman's sexual behavior is but one of her many 1000s of attributes. There are thousands of highly professional and successful woman that dont have the time for a full-scale marriage, but do have a sexual drive that they like to address on occasion. Many of these women have probably obtained status that LMS could only dream about. This reality transends LMS's world.

Without question, LMS is an extreme sexist.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Matt Rogers said:
For some reason every time I sleep with a girl I lose interest in her. It is not even as if I am just looking to sleep with them. When I date a girl it is because I am interested in her and hope that I will end up liking her and that it will develop into a relationship.

I am trying to work out why this is and was wondering if anyone else had the same problem and could offer some insight?

I've had a few theories:

1) Maybe I am jumping into bed with them too soon before I have the chance to develop any actual feelings for them. Although generally I end up going to bed with a girl within 3-5 dates, if I am looking for a relationship maybe I should wait a bit longer.

2) Maybe it is just the girl and if I meet the right girl I won't lose interest after sex.

3) Maybe subconsciously my interest in them was only ever physical and I only figured this out once I had satisfied my lust.
Good insight. Here's a question for 'ya; if you came across the woman who is right for you, would you know?
 
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Anyway, what the heck are you complaining about, aren't you happy about your conquests? Doesn't that make you feel like a real fvcking man? Like I'm a fvcking 30 y/o virgin and you are compliaining about this crap. You need a good kick in the rear to be complaining about this nonsense on a board like this.

Gee, I'm a millionare, I'm complaining that I dont know where to spend my money, boo-hoo.

(I'm a voluntary virgin, but still dont understand why you are complaining about being successful with women)
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
Anyway, what the heck are you complaining about, aren't you happy about your conquests? Doesn't that make you feel like a real fvcking man? Like I'm a fvcking 30 y/o virgin and you are compliaining about this crap. You need a good kick in the rear to be complaining about this nonsense on a board like this.

Gee, I'm a millionare, I'm complaining that I dont know where to spend my money, boo-hoo.

(I'm a voluntary virgin, but still dont understand why you are complaining about being successful with women)
It's a difficult thing to understand if you haven't
experienced it.
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
It's a difficult thing to understand if you haven't
experienced it.
It's difficult thing to understand why people are learning the art of conquesting women and then complaining that they lose interest on a girl when they are done with the conquest.

I can understand complaining about being an AFC, WBAFC, or BAFC, being friendzoned, or being used by women, but this - I dont understand how someone can complain about being successful and getting what he wants out of women.

So, yeah, I guess it's difficult to understand...complaining about success.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
...So, yeah, I guess it's difficult to understand...complaining about success.
It makes sense once you realize that your idea of success may not be the same as another person's.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Did you have really strong attraction to these gals? If not, then this might not happen so much if you raise your standards.
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
It makes sense once you realize that your idea of success may not be the same as another person's.
I'm talking about the concept of success with this board, which fundamentally is designed to help people out who are having a hard time with the ladies turn into a support board people for people who are addicted to sex and conquest. I just find the whole thing absurd. Anyway, more power to guys like me, now I really know I'm not missing anything by choosing to be a virgin and not sexually conquesting women.

But it's cool that people are seeing that sex outside of marriage never works out - there is always a break-up or loss of interest. When you are just filling your selfish lusts you always come out empty.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
I'm talking about the concept of success with this board, which fundamentally is designed to help people out who are having a hard time with the ladies turn into a support board people for people who are addicted to sex and conquest. I just find the whole thing absurd. Anyway, more power to guys like me, now I really know I'm not missing anything by choosing to be a virgin and not sexually conquesting women.

But it's cool that people are seeing that sex outside of marriage never works out - there is always a break-up or loss of interest. When you are just filling your selfish lusts you always come out empty.
I had a friend who was heavily involved with the Catholic church and when he was a teenager he wanted to become a priest. At the age of 17 the seminary he applied to turned him down during the interview process - he had taken a vow of celibacy and had never done anything with a woman, so they more or less suggested he at least find out what he'd be giving up before he committed to a life without women.

He found a girlfriend and nobody ever heard him speak of becoming a priest again.

My point: you have no idea what you're missing. If you're going to base all your life's decisions on other people's opinions, you'll never have any experiences to come up with your own conclusions. Most of the big questions in life can only be answered by yourself. Just something to consider.
 
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The OP doesn't seem to think that anything is missing in the way he is portraying his frustrations of losing interest in women he's having sex with.

Anyway, it seems that I'm more interested in porn and masturbating then getting it with a real girl. I just masturbated again today at some porn images at escorts. Turns out I like the idea that sex could be bought and I can choose from a bunch of escorts that are begging for business and look hot and horney in the pics. I like fantasizing about going to one, paying for it, and just doing them. It seems so anonymous, impersonal and business-like that I tend to see women as 'friends', but if I want sex, go hire and escort, and I think this is just crazy.

It seems that all I'm missing is a potentially more potent, distructive addiction that's just a tad more social and emotionally risky then the one behind the computer screen.

Anyway it's pathetic. I have like two different dates planned out with two different girls on the same day, and I end up watching porn and wacking off today, I dont know what's wrong with me.
The last time I viewed porn (when I didn't want to) was February 14th in the evening, and I tried to stay away from it, and bamm today, March 2nd, it hit hard and had to look at it. I'm sure my dates wont mind, they dont have to know about this stupid habit, let's just put it under the rug for now.
 
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Anyway....I thought having a gf is different from conquest jumping so that example wouldn't count, would it?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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