SeymourCake
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You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Cute is one thing, hot is another.PapiChulo said:I ve been called cute and it has got me nowhere.
Don't you all realize that women love value, thus hypergamy is high? Damn any woman feels entitled to a top 10% man, and that the growing number of men using PUA methods is only inflating their "value." Flaking is at an all time high for men, and women have the say on whether or not to choose you. Women tend to date up, while men tend to date down.asa_don said:You bet they do! Any guy who thinks different is only fooling himself. All the PUA and c&f stuff ugly men try to do only goes so far.
It is looks and the financial stability of a man that attracts women and that will keep women by your side long term.
If you don't believe me....look at all the average (looks, money) and ugly men that can't get a woman.
If looks didn't matter ugly gys would have a tons of chicks to pick from and would be getting laid all the time and wouldnt be looking for new ways and awkward tricks to get women.
Looks matter!
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Thanks for this post, man. Repped.betheman said:of course looks matter, stupid debate, its a question of degree and of who is judging, one woman could think you are a 5 another could think you are a 7, trouble is most men downgrade themselves which limits their own sense of worth, always go with the higher value and assume she is interested.
"Cute" in general does NOT mean attractive. It is often female code for "not sexually attractive".PapiChulo said:I ve been called cute and it has got me nowhere. I don't know what I would do with myself if I were ugly, perhaps work at something else that much harder.
After decades of feminism, women are the new men.zekko said:Cute is one thing, hot is another.
I remember a time when this thread would have been deleted. That was back in the day when more people bought into the pickup guru myth that looks don't matter. People seem to have a more realistic view on the topic now, although maybe the pendulumn has swung back a bit too far. Looks will never be as important on men as on women, because men have so many more ways to attain high value.
1) The above is not really substantiated in any meaningful way. Who knows him well enough personally to vouch for that statement in an objective way?ralphpetersen said:probably does. But look at Neil Strauss. Bald and skinny but with a solid game he gets the girls.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I used to have girls at 18 laugh at me, just for existing, when I was at college, and really had such low self worth and unsure about my decisions and marketability to women and subsequently decisions in my life, that I feel incapable or powerless to achieve anything. I posted earlier about how I think that women are 'against' me is down to low self-esteem, but they can be very cruel, well that definitely applies here.TillTheEndOfTime said:After decades of feminism, women are the new men.
Looks matter as much or more to MOST women now. You need to flush that decades old philosophy, "that yeah a man's looks matter, but we are more harsh on women". Nonsense. 20-35 year old women are pickier than you could ever imagine when it comes to looks.
Yes in the 40+ year age bracket, looks matter more for women. But other than that, women judge men more harshly.
rrrrr said:I know of a hot girl, say a 9, 8 at the very least. She's 25. She's going out with a gangbanger looking dishwasher at the restaurant she works at. I didn't spend much time with him but I get the sense he's a confident dude. A real controller type. He rides his bike to work cause he doesn't have a car.
I know of another guy that I work with that girls say they can't stand the way he looks but he also has an outlandish personality. He's banged 2 hotties where I work and one night we were at happy hour where a hot girl he was banging was like "we're going out right?" Nervously. He just played it cool like he didn't want to talk about it.
Both these guys were small and thin. The Mexican dude not sure if he was attractive it not but both if them were getting chicks based on being assertive men i. believe.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.