Looks are all that matters to women?

[bario]

Do you believe that looks are almost what matters to women regarding men, especially in terms of them (women) seeking a relationship?

 

[PeasantPlayer]

No, I've been with and around women who hook up or like certain guys because there is something "about them"

I've heard numerous women remark, "He's not cute, but there something sexy about him" or some other variations. If you can get the door open with out being a creep or needy, and your game is decent, you can probably nail the broad in a relatively short time frame

 

[Dingo]

If not a troll.... do a Search....

 

[Billtx49]

No. A womans looks matter to men. What matters to women is what kind of man you are. You can spruce up your looks, but that’s just an add on.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

No.

It's a factor but not the whole enchilada.

As a man you would do well to maximize your appearance, but it's not everything to a woman.

 

[Infern0]

No.

It plays a bit of a part but not a huge part.

I know plenty of good looking guys who are hopeless at getting girls and plenty of "almost ugly" dudes who do pretty well.

 

[Reykhel]

Do you believe that looks are almost what matters to women regarding men, especially in terms of them (women) seeking a relationship?

It plays a huge factor (good genes).

Ideally a woman wants the good genes and good provisioning but she doesn't always find it in the same male (hence the world abash with single mothers who have got the kid with the good gened male and are now looking for the good provider to tie down)

Don't believe looks are important?

Snag a girl that is two points below you on the beauty scale......watch her slay dragons and put up with ****ty behavior to stay with
you.

 

[sosousage]

maximise your inner wealth. then character and look.

 

[Milano]

If you plan on keeping them for a long time, being wanted and dreamed of as a father for their kids, ofc looks matters a lot.

Most of us in here are not gonna be instagram famous or other kinds of celebreties any time soon, which means we dont have the pulling power to snag a girl several levels above us AND keep her for several years without getting a sht storm and her cheating with better looking guys simply because she can.

Pick up was designed to teach nerds to dream of getting the hot chick and settle down with her. Now you can still get a woman above your level, but its not gonna be many levels higher if you are a 5 looks wise and everything else is pretty much average except your game.

Here is the problem, a HB8 can get a guy that is an 8 with a good job and good genetics, so why would she not? Its mathematics. What can you offer that would put you, lets say a 6, up to an 8 and make her believe that you deserve her? Because not only do we all want a hot chick, we also want her to obey us. Now why would any human logically obey someone who is not at the same level or above?

The easy trick is to a find a woman who is below your level and marry her and settle for that. The funny thing is that most people think they are entitled to something of higher value than they are themselves. Dont get me wrong, many have potential, but TODAY what is your SMV and what can you offer a woman? Most couples or men and women walking side by side are actually on the same level even look wise, its COMPLETELY natural.

Sometimes we have to go back to the drawing board and look at ourselves and our competition as it is. When you enter the gym during rush hours, all those guys who out muscle you by a significant margin or just look better physique wise overall are probably beating you on Tinder as we speak. Use that as motivation to becoming bigger and stronger, eat more and clearner everyday. Its actually just like going to war, everything looks fairly peaceful but its not. Its a war everyday between which male gets to procreate with the most attractive females like it always has and always will be.

You need a better physique than most men, you want the "wow factor". Why does this work? Because it requires a war like mentality of eating and training all the time which most men dont have, ergo you show a strong mentality. You also want a better job than most men and certainly women. This is just where the game STARTS, if you dont have this you are already out.

Even women with higher education and high status jobs will continue to say that money and education, job etc is not that important. WATCH how the same woman "randomly" falls in love with a man with at least the same level career.

There is no magic trick, there is only evolution and survival of the fittest. Can you get your dirty penis inside a woman that is several levels above you once a year if you go out and desperatly try to game? Sure. Would it be better to invest in yourself in stead of all those late nights boozing around, poisoning your system to perhaps get lucky one seldom time? Probably, but its not instantly funny and rewarding.

Get yourself a great physique and a great job. Try to develop a social network to the best of your ability along the way, but physique and education/job always first. I know people who have done this, and they dont understand the hustle about dating, understanding women. Why? These men are scarce so women even contact them on Facebook. There is always exceptions but I would say this is the general idea, at least my ideology for now.

 

[Mike32ct]

Yes.

 

[sosousage]

If you plan on keeping them for a long time, being wanted and dreamed of as a father for their kids, ofc looks matters a lot.

Most of us in here are not gonna be instagram famous or other kinds of celebreties any time soon, which means we dont have the pulling power to snag a girl several levels above us AND keep her for several years without getting a sht storm and her cheating with better looking guys simply because she can.

Pick up was designed to teach nerds to dream of getting the hot chick and settle down with her. Now you can still get a woman above your level, but its not gonna be many levels higher if you are a 5 looks wise and everything else is pretty much average except your game.

Here is the problem, a HB8 can get a guy that is an 8 with a good job and good genetics, so why would she not? Its mathematics. What can you offer that would put you, lets say a 6, up to an 8 and make her believe that you deserve her? Because not only do we all want a hot chick, we also want her to obey us. Now why would any human logically obey someone who is not at the same level or above?

The easy trick is to a find a woman who is below your level and marry her and settle for that. The funny thing is that most people think they are entitled to something of higher value than they are themselves. Dont get me wrong, many have potential, but TODAY what is your SMV and what can you offer a woman? Most couples or men and women walking side by side are actually on the same level even look wise, its COMPLETELY natural.

Sometimes we have to go back to the drawing board and look at ourselves and our competition as it is. When you enter the gym during rush hours, all those guys who out muscle you by a significant margin or just look better physique wise overall are probably beating you on Tinder as we speak. Use that as motivation to becoming bigger and stronger, eat more and clearner everyday. Its actually just like going to war, everything looks fairly peaceful but its not. Its a war everyday between which male gets to procreate with the most attractive females like it always has and always will be.

You need a better physique than most men, you want the "wow factor". Why does this work? Because it requires a war like mentality of eating and training all the time which most men dont have, ergo you show a strong mentality. You also want a better job than most men and certainly women. This is just where the game STARTS, if you dont have this you are already out.

Even women with higher education and high status jobs will continue to say that money and education, job etc is not that important. WATCH how the same woman "randomly" falls in love with a man with at least the same level career.

There is no magic trick, there is only evolution and survival of the fittest. Can you get your dirty penis inside a woman that is several levels above you once a year if you go out and desperatly try to game? Sure. Would it be better to invest in yourself in stead of all those late nights boozing around, poisoning your system to perhaps get lucky one seldom time? Probably, but its not instantly funny and rewarding.

Get yourself a great physique and a great job. Try to develop a social network to the best of your ability along the way, but physique and education/job always first. I know people who have done this, and they dont understand the hustle about dating, understanding women. Why? These men are scarce so women even contact them on Facebook. There is always exceptions but I would say this is the general idea, at least my ideology for now.

So I have to be 9/10 to get a 5/10 girl?

 

[zekko]

You should have looks at a certain baseline level, but I actually think i's probably more personality than looks.

 

[dude99]

Do you believe that looks are almost what matters to women regarding men, especially in terms of them (women) seeking a relationship?

Looks will get you noticed. If they don't see your value then it won't matter.

 

[Billtx49]

You should have looks at a certain baseline level, but I actually think i's probably more personality than looks.

Yes, if they were not interested in what kind of man you are and go solely on your looks, sh|t tests wouldn’t exist.
Looks only get you to initial attraction stage…

 

[Urbanyst]

VALUE is all that matters to women.

 

[resilient]

If not a troll.... do a Search....

At first glance, there are 199 threads on SMV:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/search/7336212/?q=sexual+market+value&o=date

OP, no offense... I'm aware you just registered your username this month. However, threads like these pop up frequently on this forum and it gets old bud.

Do your homework and formulate some critical thinking analysis of your own thoughts, experiences, and sticking points and we'll provide a more in-depth discussion than a simple "yes/no" answer.

 

[guru1000]

Looks is just one component of SMV, among status and wealth. Did Hugh Hefner care about his looks at 91yo? Matter of fact he did, and he looked good for his age. But his 10 SMV originated from status and wealth.

But for DJs who are not high-status nor wealthy, looks are very important to open the door.

1) Status;
2) Looks;
3) Wealth.

Assuming you have at least normal social skills, be the best in 1 of the 3; or be great in 2 of the 3 and you will have unlimited options.

 

[That_dude]

I agree with Guru to an extent. At least for a high quality woman. I rarely see a high quality 8-9-10+ non-ghetto chick with a guy that doesn't have at least 2 out of the 3. Not saying it doesn't happen

 

[Mike32ct]

I do concede that some guys (including myself) may have a sort of social awkwardness or a vibe that is a bit "off" that they are not consciously aware of, or they just can't put their finger on it. Then it becomes easy to blame it all on looks.

However, you can at least look at a picture of yourself and SEE your looks. You can't really "see" or know the vibe you are giving off to women and how they feel about it.

You can't fix what you can't see.

 

[GoodOne123]

It's your overall sex appeal they are attracted to. Of course looks contribute to sex appeal, but it's not the only component that does.

So much more like your overall demeanor, clothes, and physique contribute to sex appeal.

That's why women call ugly dudes like Liam neeson sexy, where his attractiveness comes from different areas than his looks.