"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Steve Olieve

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Hey, I've been looking at this site and the discussion forums for quite some time now, but this is my first post.


I'm 18 and I'm a college kid. I've been hooking up with three different girls the past couple weeks and I've been trying to tie them all down so that I always have at least these three girls to hit -- you know, for the winter time. Two I got under control but the third one is weird.

The girl I'm having problems with I met a couple days ago. Her name is Anastasia and we were back at my place, about to get down; I got a good read on the attraction level, kino was great, and suddenly I found myself getting head and I assume I'm about to f*ck her. All of a sudden she starts pulling some **** like she's an actress. She's undressed, and I'm about to do the deed and she starts teasing me; not saying no, or stop, or anything like that, just looking at me, smiling, and shying away. At first I think its just a normal tease, some girls think they are cute when they do that. I figure I just need to warm up the oven a little bit first, but thirty minutes later she's pulling the same ****. I got the impression that she wanted me to ask for it, or beg, or something. I'm not about to beg some girl to have sex with me, so we don't screw. Later she tells me she wants(ed?) it but she wants to try and see how long within a [pre-game] she can make out / give head, etc... without having sex.

Is this because she's young? What do I do? I don't mind waiting until date two, its just that the behavior was not intuitive. Any advice would be appreciated.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The_Game

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Steve Olieve said:
Hey, I've been looking at this site and the discussion forums for quite some time now, but this is my first post.


I'm 18 and I'm a college kid. I've been hooking up with three different girls the past couple weeks and I've been trying to tie them all down so that I always have at least these three girls to hit -- you know, for the winter time. Two I got under control but the third one is weird.

The girl I'm having problems with I met a couple days ago. Her name is Anastasia and we were back at my place, about to get down; I got a good read on the attraction level, kino was great, and suddenly I found myself getting head and I assume I'm about to f*ck her. All of a sudden she starts pulling some **** like she's an actress. She's undressed, and I'm about to do the deed and she starts teasing me; not saying no, or stop, or anything like that, just looking at me, smiling, and shying away. At first I think its just a normal tease, some girls think they are cute when they do that. I figure I just need to warm up the oven a little bit first, but thirty minutes later she's pulling the same ****. I got the impression that she wanted me to ask for it, or beg, or something. I'm not about to beg some girl to have sex with me, so we don't screw. Later she tells me she wants(ed?) it but she wants to try and see how long within a [pre-game] she can make out / give head, etc... without having sex.

Is this because she's young? What do I do? I don't mind waiting until date two, its just that the behavior was not intuitive. Any advice would be appreciated.


Maybe she's just sick and tired of being left outside alone, when it's cold out there.
 

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Steve sometimes you just gotta go for it, when she stopped doing her thing, thats when you gotta start doing your thing.
 

KontrollerX

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Meh, trying what some of these guys have proposed could get a rape charge thrown your way.

No offense bros but thats how it reads to me.

In anycase though if she keeps up this teasing/cold fish act just throw her and all girls who try to blue ball you like this to the curb after the first or third time they do it ala three strikes and your out rule.

It makes them better women for the next man or even you somewhere down the line as they know you will not put up with sh!t by playing their stupid little games.

Guys that are naturals at this DJ game don't tolerate this sh!t for one minute.

A girl tries this they look at that girl like she's a fvckin weirdo and they are out the door before she can apologize.

Only guys that are not naturals, that come from an AFC background who are trying to change it obsess over this sh!t and wonder what she could be doing or trying and try to figure it out.

Naturals don't do that.

They assess the situation and see they are not getting what they want and so they leave the girl.

No negotiating, no bullsh!t mental hassles, they are gone off looking for a girl ready to really get down and not play stupid head trip games like this.

We can all learn a lesson from the naturals when it comes to this.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Quiksilver

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Good point Kontroller.

You don't have to be a 'natural' to have self-respect. Don't let anybody waste your time. Life is too short to be spent playing head games and dealing with **** tests.

Try going cold-fish on her and see if she comes around.
 

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This is an awesome tip. Good thing its in the tips section, and not in the main discussion.
 
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