"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Long Term Relationships, anyone else?

Enjin 7

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I'm not really looking for so many sexual partners as I'm looking for a long term relationship.

what they say is true. i was talking to a friend of mine... one of those LJBF things!!!! bla bla bla

her: I really like this boy. he's nice and he's a sweetheart, but I'm not sure i want him as a boyfriend?
me: why not?
her: i dont know
me: you think you could find someone better?
her: i just want to keep my options open
me: really...
her: yeah
me: but he seems to be great boyfriend material, so why not?
her: because i dont want to make any commitments just in case I find someone better

soooooooooo tell me your thoughts on this:

should you be like the typical ****y ******* with game in order to get her attention, and then treat her like she should be treated? its confusing. ive read the articles or whatever, but im still sort of confused.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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let me see

Well see girls love to turn a bad guy or lol dj into an AFC. Thats their mission in life.

The first thing that you need to understand is that you always have to be ****y and self assured around women, why not just become ****y/funny etc... permanently. Become a Alpha male instead of having to put on an Act.

Learn not to need girls for happiness or self esteem boasts.

After you have that down then, you can alwasy be ****y and funny and treat them like sh*t, because guess what, you dont need them anymore.

Girls will hence like that, attracted to a male of "high value" its just girls who think they are getting the best deal, it makes them feel like they are doing the picking, when in reality every man has an alpha in them, they just havent brought it out yet.

She is proof of all the things that are said and done on this board are true. Women DONT know what they want, they're emtionally confused creatures, and only the alpha male knows how to stirr those feelings of animal magnitism in women.

So yes be a alpha male permanently, BUT BE ONE FOR THE RIGHT REASONS. Be an alpha male because it is your duty to mankind and to yourself to be the best man you can be, NOT because it helps you get women. U'll start to slack off and she'll leave. It happened to me.
 

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you shouldnt take much stock into the above post!

i will write mroe about this tomorrow when Im not so tired.
 

kk2004

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why

why.. whats up.. where did I go wrong..maybe im missing something.
 

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because you are the essence of not a man right now...u know that. and right now ur skewed with pain....trsut me.

I will explain in this thread tomorrow.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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kk2004,

You know what you're talking about. I agree completely.
 

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Enjin 7, how would you usually get the attention of girls you're interested in? It shouldn't be confusing if you're comfortable with girls in general. Sometimes when you feel things are difficult, it could just simply mean that the two of you don't really click together very well. If you're totally comfortable with each other and enjoy each others company, then you should understand her well enough to know what would get her attention.

It's never the same with all girls. You can't apply the same methods and get the same results. However, what a confident man would do is to apply it all just to see what actually works.

One other things. That girl you were talking about might not know what she wants, but she sure does know how to handle it. Because all of us are basically just going about our lives looking for something better. Then again, she should've just got together with that guy and found out whether he is really that lousy to begin with.
 

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Originally posted by Enjin 7
I'm not really looking for so many sexual partners as I'm looking for a long term relationship.

what they say is true. i was talking to a friend of mine... one of those LJBF things!!!! bla bla bla

her: I really like this boy. he's nice and he's a sweetheart, but I'm not sure i want him as a boyfriend?
me: why not?
her: i dont know
me: you think you could find someone better?
her: i just want to keep my options open
me: really...
her: yeah
me: but he seems to be great boyfriend material, so why not?
her: because i dont want to make any commitments just in case I find someone better

soooooooooo tell me your thoughts on this:

should you be like the typical ****y ******* with game in order to get her attention, and then treat her like she should be treated? its confusing. ive read the articles or whatever, but im still sort of confused.
Lay down the law with this girl. I would tell her that she is just stupid. :) I would instruct her to flat out tell this guy that she is not interested.

When it comes to women... don't be afraid to tell her off if she is wrong. Also don't be afraid to act and talk like a man.
 

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Enjin 7 I know you won't follow my advice, not now, but I know that in some time you will realize how right I was:

Don't listen to what kk2004 and the other guys are telling you!
Don't try to play the stupid coky "alpha male" thing, that's just pathetic. It is acceptable if you are at the lower half of the learning curve because it can help to solve some neediness and supplication issues, but when you are at the very top like myself, you realize how retarded and stupid things like "be alpha","act like a man" or "treat her like **** to make her chase you" are.
The guys that are giving you that kind of advice, who are the majority of the people on this site (which I strongly suggest you to leave),are as insecure as you are, if not more. They are AFCs who try to mask their insecurities with the useless **** that is taught in this site. They are fake, unnatural and incongruent. They are defensive around girls. They try to lower the girl's value to raise theirs. They use C&F in a way where they're sheltering their real personality. It is very transparent.
Try next time giving her a compliment on something you think is cool about her. You won't lose value.
If you're coming from the right place and not just seeking a reaction, then she'll just think you're a cool guy.
I know that this girl is very important for you and I want to help you.
Perhaps I will post more things later on but for now let me give you some insights:
Realize that you have the power to make this girl better than what she is, simply by virtue of being with you, being connected to you, being in your presence or even able to communicate some with you. She can feel more sexy, more intelligent, solve problems more easily, be more dedicated, be more rational, and so on. Does that sound like a grand claim? It's not. A good leader can bring out all those things in a person, and more. Who is that dependant on? YOU! She feels stronger, smarter, more confident, more socially savvy, more beautiful, and more powerful around you. Without you, she can't have that. What does that do
for your value? 10/10. When you deliver a compliment well (that's where the game comes in), you increase your value and hers... and yours MORE. There's an art to this, of course. It's possible to give a compliment that's supplicative. That raises her value a tiny bit, and lowers yours a lot. Same with perceived supplication. But imagine, for example, that a Tom Cruise-esque guy walks up to some girl, looks deeply into her eyes, and tells her that she carries herself so gracefully that he had to come speak with
her. Guess what? She's positively glowing , and his value has only gotten higher. Are you getting an idea of what I'm talking about? Do you nderstand the attitude that I want you to have? And if you're picking up everyone around you, you're getting social proofed too. Higher social status. More people want to be around you. It's cyclical.
In short: Don't try to cut her down so you're better than her. Instead, lead her and make people around you better people. You can do this by encouraging them, complimenting them when they do well, and disciplining them when they fail. You assume a high value, and you create even more by this attitude. Really,everyone you meet will be picked up a bit, and become a better person if they work with you.

I really believe that weak body language, unattractive behavior, social
incompetence, etc are really just symptoms of low self-esteem, lack of
confidence, and fear.
Try to fix these things first. It isn't an easy job but once you have fixed that you wil undersand my post, up to that point I suppose you and the others will ignore it:)
 

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just be confident.....as in...I would say soemthing like..if he is a great guy you better get on that.

when it comes to the women you want to be in a LTR this is what they want:

"women say they want kindness, caring, warmth, tenderness, attentiveness, commitment, shared values, a good listener, a sense of humor, a competent adult who makes a decent living and has no serious vices"

women want this....exactly this...except for emotional wreck bytching who you need to stay away from.

first and foremost they want CONFIDENT MAN. NOT HARD AS ALPHA MALE MAN, NO STEEL BALL..SHUT THE FYCK UP BYTCH MAN. JUST MR. if I mess up, I admit it(humility) and I know I have the confidence(power) to fix it.



for instance..the other night I couldnt sleep...because earlier my 6 yr old sister came up to me and told me..."chris, u dont love me' I said what?

she said : you alway want to be with someone else....you spend 5 min with me"

that hit me like a bulldozer..ive neglected my 6 yr old sister...thats pathetic..and I felt terrible.

I went out that night and low and behold...my sister had a cist form between her small intestine...and was taken to the hospital....I coudltn sleep..so I called my gf..who was sleeping...and I called her 7 times..to wake her up..Ive been with her for 3 and half months....

sosuave says that was retarted..because I look clingly, needy..I did NEED her...she has the power to calm me down.....why? because she is a women, she is comfertering and she loves me.....if u listen to sosauve you wont ever achiceve this....you cant open up to her like this...anyways she called me back at 7 am when she got up..and we talked for 2 hours...and she told me how amazing I am for always being able to get back up when im down....

again most guys here will flame me for that..and tell me Im a pyssy and she will leave me soon.
SAD MEN I TELL YOU..THEN AGAIN THEY ARENT MEN.

moral of the story...just have confidence..real confidence will show threw regardless of how "sweet, carings, sensative, and nice you are"

trust me.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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