"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Long term gf going abroad: Worried about her cheating on me

Sir Psycho Sexy

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and that you will never really know what happened anyway.
Wouldn't relationships be so much easier if we had to tell the truth 100% of the time to our partner? Your gf would come back from the trip and have to say, "yes, I did cheat" or "no, I didn't cheat." Either way you would know the truth and move on.

Instead you have to continue on in a relationship knowing "you will never really know what happened anyway" and get called beta for even wanting to discuss the topic on a dating forum. Making a commitment to someone means taking them into consideration and making sacrifices sometimes. Did she do that for this trip?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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6nemesis9 said:
She even told me he kept kissing her on her neck and tried to kiss her on the mouth.
Dude, I don't meant to be the Devil's advocate, but I have been seducing girls with caveman kino for about 4 years of night game and trust me: once you kiss the neck, it is all over for them. It is almost as if you push the sex button; she is practically yours after that.

6nemesis9 said:
[O]bviously dodged the kiss but anyway she was obviously pleased by a guy pedestalizing her. That's just women, you know, they love to flirt for free attention.
You do not know that. That is what she wants you to believe. How do you know she dodged the kiss? She could have made out with him or phucked him and then told you about the kiss on the neck and his "attempt" to kiss her lips as a way to feel less guilty about it and then claim she told you, should the topic comes up in the future. Women rationalize their promiscuous behaviors in ways that make no sense--don't fall for the trap, bro. I have messed around with girl who had boyfriends and you would not believe the stories they come up with to rationalize what they did with me. They usually will blame everything on you or make it seem like it was inevitable not to be seduced under the circumstances. At no cost will they admit that they phucked cause they were horny or attracted to another man.
 

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Thank you all for trying to inject seeds of doubt in me, by the way, I repeat, I am sure of my own situation, I already cleared it months ago (again, not going to write anything more to explain why I'm sure of my situation), and the few facts I wrote are to explain the guy why it's not said that a girl going on holiday with friends will cheat. The point is, GFs can and will flirt anyway, but they aren't going to give away their uterus like that.

The problem here is that you don't get to know the aspects of real life that give you the 99% of information about the situation: so you don't know the guy and girl's looks and personality and frame control. And everything is biased by people talking by extremes, so it's gonna be an endless debate on trying to explain to people that girls DON'T cheat all the time, and that it's a sentence made for hopeless afcs to make them be less of a servant to their girlfriends.

The only guy here who can have a clue on the situation is OP, and what we can do best to help him is to make him move his energies away from the worries of his relationship and channel them to more constructive purposes. The solution is not "go and have sex with other girls" or "be always anxious and be sure that your gf will cheat", but it's "don't give a damn about what you can not control, and keep going". And I'm sorry for you, fearmongers, but from what the guy wrote, I think it's gonna be hard that his gf will even talk to any other guy.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Would you want to be with someone who could potentially cheat on you given the right set of circumstances?

If she does.. she's shown her true colours and saved yourself a lot of time.

If she doesn't.. well thats great to.

Win win!
 

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jax871 said:
Would you want to be with someone who could potentially cheat on you given the right set of circumstances?

If she does.. she's shown her true colours and saved yourself a lot of time.

If she doesn't.. well thats great to.

Win win!
Thats the problem though, what girl is going to cheat and then fess up to it? NONE OF THEM WILL. They will cheat and then continue on in the relationship like nothing ever happened
 

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Duracell, i recently got back from a lads holiday to faliraki. Seriously the stuff the girls with boyfriends get up to... Alot of them did stay faithful but i can assure you that the attitude amongst some is what happens on tour stays on tour. If you've been DJ with her and not let her control you then im sure you have nothing to worry about. It's the beta phaggots that have everything to worry about because their gf's will cheat in an instant.
 

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Le killeur said:
Duracell, i recently got back from a lads holiday to faliraki. Seriously the stuff the girls with boyfriends get up to... Alot of them did stay faithful but i can assure you that the attitude amongst some is what happens on tour stays on tour. If you've been DJ with her and not let her control you then im sure you have nothing to worry about. It's the beta phaggots that have everything to worry about because their gf's will cheat in an instant.
Personally, if my girl said she was going on holiday to faliraki she'd be dropped right then and there...
 

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She's only going for a week? WTF are you worried about? If it were a month or two, that's when you need to be concerned.

I go on work trips for a week at a time. Not only to I make the best of the week while I'm away, I always see that as the opportunity to give my gf the 'gift of missing me'. Use that week to work in your favor instead of making you an insecure b1tch :)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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This has gone out bit out of proportion.

Yeah it seems I haven't taken the approach that whatever choices my girlfriend makes they are not influenced by me and I shouldn't be taking it personally, regardless of her current IL.

We are all also forgetting and we should be honest that it's exactly the same the other way round. I'm sure there are people here in healthy LTRs, if they were put into a situation on a lads holiday they could very well cheat on their girlfriend. Fvcking some random chick in a random place then not taking a number or seeing her again - and that chick could be engaged for all we know, hell it might even be my girlfriend!

If for whatever reason I did find out she's been up to no good it wouldn't surprise me, I'd be more surprised if I found out she didn't. That was my view before posting, I assume that she will.

Going off topic, I'm not sure if this is just a trait of a decent mindset or if she's not the one for me - but regardless of this post if for any reason we were to part it wouldn't bother me too much as the thought of an upgrade is kind of exciting. While am sure it would hurt and my ego could take a knock (especially if she ends it) I don't have that feeling that everyone I know has with their g/fs that they can never find a replacement to their other half.
 

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I screwed the bride and the bridesmaid a week after the wedding. Poor chumps thought they were safe after getting married. Best 3 some i ever had.
 

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Duracell_Bunny said:
This has gone out bit out of proportion.

Yeah it seems I haven't taken the approach that whatever choices my girlfriend makes they are not influenced by me and I shouldn't be taking it personally, regardless of her current IL.

We are all also forgetting and we should be honest that it's exactly the same the other way round. I'm sure there are people here in healthy LTRs, if they were put into a situation on a lads holiday they could very well cheat on their girlfriend. Fvcking some random chick in a random place then not taking a number or seeing her again - and that chick could be engaged for all we know, hell it might even be my girlfriend!

If for whatever reason I did find out she's been up to no good it wouldn't surprise me, I'd be more surprised if I found out she didn't. That was my view before posting, I assume that she will.

Going off topic, I'm not sure if this is just a trait of a decent mindset or if she's not the one for me - but regardless of this post if for any reason we were to part it wouldn't bother me too much as the thought of an upgrade is kind of exciting. While am sure it would hurt and my ego could take a knock (especially if she ends it) I don't have that feeling that everyone I know has with their g/fs that they can never find a replacement to their other half.
Spoken like a recovering AFC.
 

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Well, if she cheats, so be it.

I think given cheating is inevitable, then we need as a society to work around it, and not give in to it. Maybe the idea of serial monogamy doesn't make sense after all.

As per the OP's points, well trust is big in a relationship. Even if she did cheat, there is no way for you to know for sure.
 

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coochieman said:
My gf told me how he was desperate on her pedestalizing her etc. She even told me he kept kissing her on her neck and tried to kiss her on the mouth. She obviously dodged the kiss but.....

What did you think she was gonna tell ya if even more happened? Wake up, brothers. Can't hold a woman down, they are people with different circumstances & different choices.

Dear Mr. OP, just look at you oozing steamin' hot insecurity. It's okay that it is us putting up with this miserable stench of yours, please for your gonad's sake DON'T LET YOUR WOMAN GET EVEN A SNIFF OF THIS. Fucck, are you gonna travel with her?! Of course not! So all you can do is continue being the goddamn man that you are and hope. Or even better, do not give a fucck. Nothin' you can do now would change sh!t if she off on a first class seat to go hop on another brother's stick.

Your value and her respect for you, her integrity and fidelity factor, the relationship significance, the other guy's game (that's if there is) and destiny (Don't be mad if she meets and fuccks a celeb millionaire, you would too) are all elements that you can do nothing about now.

Solution: Be the best man you can be. In the end, you would only be held accountable for your OWN choices, not her's.
Rofl. Funny and well said.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've said this for awhile now, but the best weapon we have in our arsenal when it comes to dealing with women is not giving a fvck.

Spin plates while she's away. I don't mean cheating, just flirt and socialise, keep your game sharp. It will help you not give a fvck.
 

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Gro0ver said:
I've said this for awhile now, but the best weapon we have in our arsenal when it comes to dealing with women is not giving a fvck.

Spin plates while she's away. I don't mean cheating, just flirt and socialise, keep your game sharp. It will help you not give a fvck.
Agreed dont be a loser beta like rob patty...he obviously cared thats why he left. If i were him, i wud have annal sexed her 10x and watched her have a three some with Wesley Snipes and that dude who is Osamara's bf. u know the big fvcker from green mile.
 

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I just read an article about this the other day talking about people going to foreign countries and "finding a mate" there...talked about how women don't have to worry about anyone thinking they are a slut or social ramifications because they don't know anyone there, etc.

I would probably think there is a pretty high chance, especially if alcohol is involved. Besides how are you going to find out? Get her swabbed for semen when she comes back? Women are pros at doing this type of thing and never getting found out. She will probably be doing all the nasty things with that dude she doesn't for with you...fair warning
 

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I just read an article about this the other day talking about people going to foreign countries and "finding a mate" there...talked about how women don't have to worry about anyone thinking they are a slut or social ramifications because they don't know anyone there, etc.

I would probably think there is a pretty high chance, especially if alcohol is involved. Besides how are you going to find out? Get her swabbed for semen when she comes back? Women are pros at doing this type of thing and never getting found out. She will probably be doing all the nasty things with that dude she doesn't for with you...fair warning

You'll be at home watching The Notebook with some popcorn, Fluffy the cat on your lap and a box of tissues while she is going ATM with some foreign dude she just met an hour ago, swallowing his load and thinking its the hottest sex she has ever had...
 

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This is getting fvcked up - she's being EXTREMELY clingy calling multiple times throughout today. She came back this morning.

Who knows what happened but I'm prepared for anything.

Although last night was kinda fun, but wrong. My g/f called, I spoke to her outside in the smoking area while a chick was dancing and grinding against me - she was defiantly DTF, we chatted about sexual positions and all sorts and lives just a couple of miles from me. But no, did not bang her and didn't take her number :up:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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