"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Long Term Female Friends -IOIs after game improvement

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Anyone have any girls they've been friends with start showing IOIs after they moved away from beta and more towards alpha? I've got one who's been touching me a lot more lately than normal. Anyone have a similar experience? And if so, did you decide to convert her into a plate or nah? What were the results?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Anyone have any girls they've been friends with start showing IOIs after they moved away from beta and more towards alpha? I've got one who's been touching me a lot more lately than normal. Anyone have a similar experience? And if so, did you decide to convert her into a plate or nah? What were the results?
Ex-wife, loved me we had sex every night. I was her "teddy bear" as I was kinda bulky but good looking to her. She was a true "good girl".

Went to army basic training, lost 40 lbs, had abs and muscular. When I came back, she's touching me all the time, grabbing my ass, my legs, always looking. It all makes a difference. Even if they already liked you a lot.

And if you where too "fat" or "smooth" for them, and come back "ripped" and "muscular" their loins will be fired up. Because they are attracted to what they see just like us. It might not be the overriding force in all women, but it really matters.
 

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Anyone have any girls they've been friends with start showing IOIs after they moved away from beta and more towards alpha? I've got one who's been touching me a lot more lately than normal. Anyone have a similar experience? And if so, did you decide to convert her into a plate or nah? What were the results?
tread with caution, you don't want to accidentally get yourself friendzoned(in the bad way) or become an orbiter or make things awkward.

only try and make a move if they do something that makes it extremely obvious you have a shot with them
 

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tread with caution, you don't want to accidentally get yourself friendzoned(in the bad way) or become an orbiter or make things awkward.

only try and make a move if they do something that makes it extremely obvious you have a shot with them
^This is the main concern. She's been a friend of mine since high school. She's fun to hang out with, but I wouldn't say she's GF material, so I don't think I would ever date her. But she is pretty hot. Wouldn't mind smashin' it. Last night we were hanging out in a group and she put her legs up on my lap and naturally I started stroking them. She didn't seem to mind so I worked my way up from her calves to her inner thighs. Still didn't pull away. We sat there like that for a good 30+ minutes. I wanted to escalate further but something was keeping me from doing so.

Now don't take me for some kind of AFC with a case of oneitis, but I genuinely enjoy having this girl as a friend and wouldn't want to **** it up. No romantic feelings for her here. Anyone ever have a sexual relationship with a female friend and still have her around as a close friend when you weren't ****ing anymore? Or did everything get really awkward?
 

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^This is the main concern. She's been a friend of mine since high school. She's fun to hang out with, but I wouldn't say she's GF material, so I don't think I would ever date her. But she is pretty hot. Wouldn't mind smashin' it. Last night we were hanging out in a group and she put her legs up on my lap and naturally I started stroking them. She didn't seem to mind so I worked my way up from her calves to her inner thighs. Still didn't pull away. We sat there like that for a good 30+ minutes. I wanted to escalate further but something was keeping me from doing so.

Now don't take me for some kind of AFC with a case of oneitis, but I genuinely enjoy having this girl as a friend and wouldn't want to **** it up. No romantic feelings for her here. Anyone ever have a sexual relationship with a female friend and still have her around as a close friend when you weren't ****ing anymore? Or did everything get really awkward?
just remember to keep the flirting casual so it seems natural until you're positive you can smash, then you smash.

you're the one who knows her, you should know what your odds of smashing her without causing trouble are
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Every long term female friend I have at some point in our 'relationship' has made a pass at me. It is usually when sh!t goes sideways with whoever they are fvcking at the time.

It's up to you what you want to do about it. If you want to have sex with this girl then do it, let her decide what it all means. You just have to be honest about what you want. If she can handle it, well that's on her not you.... Go find other friends.
 

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Friends-with-benefits and friends with benefits are two different things.

If you genuinely are friends, like, two people who rely on each other type friends, then don't bang. If it's just a member of your social circle, then bang.

I lose count the number of female acquaintances who openly flirt with me. Got me in to trouble with the guys theyre attached to on occasion.
 
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