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Long shot hook up strategy via FB?

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Hey,

Long time reader, first time poster here.

So in my quest for plates i've come across one of my most difficult challenges to date and figured I could use some advice.

So the situation is like this...
I had a crush on this girl in high school (almost 10 years ago) and we kind of knew each other but never really hung out.
So fast forward 9 years, I friend her on facebook and we have about 50 mutual friends. I sent her a message on FB about 8 months ago with the typical hey how ya been, what are you doing now blah blah blah, she replies back with the standard, "i've been good, school was fun, blah blah hope you’re doing good"

well unfortunately I left it at that because of my AFC situation with my current gf at the time, I’ve been single for 5-6 months now and she is currently single.

So now basically i'm looking back and want to ask her to hang out and go from there ;)

The challenge is, we were never really friends, she is definitely in my league but I never see her and really don’t have any way to get to know her without reaching out to her via FB, and I don’t want to look like the typical creeper/orbiter. So my thoughts were to send her a message along the lines of Hey, it was good chatting with you last year, Hey I know this sounds kind of random but would you like to hang out some time? I don’t want to sound like a creeper or anything but from I remember back in the day you were pretty funny and I think you might be able to keep up with my sarcasm ;) have a good night, Mike.

I realize it’s a long shot since we don’t really know each other but I have nothing to loose and I figured it’s a little ballsy and as long as I sounds confident I’m giving myself the best chance.

So what do you guys think? And better suggestions?
 

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Uhm no sir that sounds pretty AFC.

Go find some stupid pic on her fakebook. Comment on how goofy/rediculous she looks. Bust her chops on her clothes. Ask her if she uses that 1983 retro look to pick up guys. Tell her you were planning on doing the same. Just keep it good funny and light hearted. Don't be cruel, just poke some fun at her. This will set you apart from 95pct of the chumps telling her how beautiful she is and how they wish they could be with her.

Then get a convo going about old times back in school. Make it a trip down memory lane. Then tease her about having a crush on YOU even if it was the other way around.

Skip out on all that prelude chump stuff you mentioned and just start off being sarcastic.

Any hooters, thats how I always did it. Worked pretty well.
 

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Moes said:
The challenge is, we were never really friends, she is definitely in my league but I never see her and really don’t have any way to get to know her without reaching out to her via FB, and I don’t want to look like the typical creeper/orbiter. So my thoughts were to send her a message along the lines of Hey, it was good chatting with you last year, Hey I know this sounds kind of random but would you like to hang out some time? I don’t want to sound like a creeper or anything but from I remember back in the day you were pretty funny and I think you might be able to keep up with my sarcasm ;) have a good night, Mike.
Send a message like that, and you're guaranteed to be shot down. You need to drop the cringe-worthy AFC style and stop apologizing for being 'random' or 'sounding like a creeper'. You are inviting a girl on a date and apologizing for it. Let that sink in for a second. It's not like you've done something bad...so why do you feel the need to apologize?? This is textbook AFC behavior. If the girl likes you, she'd be excited about your offer. And if she doesn't like you, she'll say no in any event.

This is what you need to do. Start talking to her on FB again..exchange a few messages to establish some rapport and ask for her phone number. Then text or call her a few days later and say something along the lines of "Hey, what are you doing this weekend? Wanna go grab a drink on Saturday?" It's that simple.
 

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Thanks guys, I'll go with your route and build somthing with her first then closing with the number and go from there...back to the bible, still much to learn..
 

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Bokanovsky said:
This is what you need to do. Start talking to her on FB again..exchange a few messages to establish some rapport and ask for her phone number. Then text or call her a few days later and say something along the lines of "Hey, what are you doing this weekend? Wanna go grab a drink on Saturday?" It's that simple.
Good point here. You're a man. If you see something you want, go fvcking get it. Dont' beat around the bush, don't overthink what to say, just get it.
 

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Howiestern said:
Uhm no sir that sounds pretty AFC.

Go find some stupid pic on her fakebook. Comment on how goofy/rediculous she looks. Bust her chops on her clothes. Ask her if she uses that 1983 retro look to pick up guys. Tell her you were planning on doing the same. Just keep it good funny and light hearted. Don't be cruel, just poke some fun at her. This will set you apart from 95pct of the chumps telling her how beautiful she is and how they wish they could be with her.

Then get a convo going about old times back in school. Make it a trip down memory lane. Then tease her about having a crush on YOU even if it was the other way around.

Skip out on all that prelude chump stuff you mentioned and just start off being sarcastic.

Any hooters, thats how I always did it. Worked pretty well.

Nailed it.
 
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