"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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LOL. Silence is the most effective way of communication

Kirro

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So I'm in the train station at 12:30 about to go home & I see this petite light skinned chick that I've been seeing ride the train & bus with me for the past few months. She's cute but nothing amazing, she's got some boobs(not that much) but little to no booty. I say to myself, well nothing better to do, walk over & say hi.

So said so done....

Her response: ......................................*walks away*

HOLD DAT

Fight Announcer: KO!!!!

I just stood there & laughed to myself. Then I checked myself & realized I'm still alive & everything is the same as before I approached.

Now since I got in the train station pretty late(because I was at work talking to this guy) & I'm used to seeing her on earlier rides I could have asked if she missed the train as well. Meh.....I know full well I'm not ready for this but I'm still trying to bust out of my comfort zone.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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loveshogun

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Kirro said:
So I'm in the train station at 12:30 about to go home & I see this petite light skinned chick that I've been seeing ride the train & bus with me for the past few months. She's cute but nothing amazing, she's got some boobs(not that much) but little to no booty. I say to myself, well nothing better to do, walk over & say hi.

So said so done....

Her response: ......................................*walks away*

HOLD DAT

Fight Announcer: KO!!!!

I just stood there & laughed to myself. Then I checked myself & realized I'm still alive & everything is the same as before I approached.

Now since I got in the train station pretty late(because I was at work talking to this guy) & I'm used to seeing her on earlier rides I could have asked if she missed the train as well. Meh.....I know full well I'm not ready for this but I'm still trying to bust out of my comfort zone.
Me and my friends in college, we used to play a game where you'd go up to some girls, and use the worst (or the best) lines you could think of, just for the hell of it. We'd buy whoever got the most failures in a night a drink. Once or twice, my boys actually got laid.

For me, personally, openers and clever stuff... it's always just clever talk and such. My dancing, my fiction (I'm a writer), and my overall ease with physical touch (which I learned through lots and lots of training sessions of getting shot down) are what really get my foot in the door. Or rather, my P in the va-gee.

**EDIT**
To be clear, I can't think of a single time where lines alone got me laid. However - being funny and easy overall will get anyone to trust you more. I'm sure there's research that says the same. Someone look into it.
 

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Well at least you were on the platform. I got off at the wrong station on purpose to follow/talk to this girl cuz inside the train was very crowded. As soon i reach street level i tap her from behind and said " saw you on the train and wanted to introduce myself xxxxxxx"

She basically put her ipod back on and left me there talking to myself. Had to go back down and wait for the next train .

Rejection better than regret.
 

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Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger man!
 

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@Loveshogun - I'm not fond of gimmicks or canned material. I know I have great conversational skills, I'm articulate, confident & I do have a sense of humour I just have a fear of approaching women. As you can see in my latest topics I'm forcing myself out there so I get used to it. I have no particular plan or outcome when I talk to girls, I just talk & wing it. Eventually it will come together.

@ Tiguere -Ouch man, I wonder if high value dudes did this to fatties & UGs if they'd take it as well as you did. However yeah I'm glad I finally said something even if it accomplished nothing. I was going to spend the entire day sarging but I overslept so I'm stuck home on one of my off days. Imma eat some more rejections as time goes by. I'm not ready, I'm not strong enough if anyway shape or form for this. This game is going to eat me alive but somehow its fun fighting a losing battle.

EDIT - @Alex - Thanks bro. I have got a lot of toughening up to do.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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