"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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LOL my sisters....

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Around the dinner table last night, saying it's "up to me"
to drop the exclusivity line to my new girlfriend.

ME: uh no. it's up to her to do that.

Sister1: you gotta tell her some time soon.

Me: not gonna do it. She has to bring it up.

Sister2: you have to be the one to bring it up...otherwise a woman keeps thinking about it.

ME: exactly! gotta keep that hamster spinning.

Sister2: ???

Sister1: you're wrong about this

ME: I know 100 guys that disagree (referencing but not naming this forum ha ha)

ME: ok, no more about this...I can't talk about fight club anymore...

Sister1 & 2: ?????

Brother In-Law: HA HA HA HA
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I can't understand, why it's up to her?!? You are not confident enough or what? Did she make the first move to kiss you or something?

Correct me if I have understand something wrong here!
 

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If you read the threads here about it, the consensus is, that its best to let the girl do it. Many a guy lost the girl shortly after declaring what they were. Seems to happen a lot less when the girl does it.

men: go for the sex

women: go for the relationship
 

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actually

real men: go for what they want

real women: accept only what they want
 

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DonJuanit0 said:
actually

real men: go for what they want

real women: accept only what they want
Yeah. I think we'll just ignore you for a while....

Pdx, your conversation with your sisters sounds like any time I've discussed dating issues with women. They just don't get it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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pdx1138 said:
If you read the threads here about it, the consensus is, that its best to let the girl do it. Many a guy lost the girl shortly after declaring what they were. Seems to happen a lot less when the girl does it.

men: go for the sex

women: go for the relationship
I Second this. I actually did loose a girl because i went for it. Lesson learned the hard way
 

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wtf? seriously?

Women also want marriage! You should w8 from her to bring up the subject! Kids too! You can always be a guy she can tell her wants first cause you **** out because you think you lower your value as a man! I'll just laugh and leave for my work!

Have a nice day gentlemen! Peace! :)
 

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Crissco said:
I Second this. I actually did loose a girl because i went for it. Lesson learned the hard way
Yeah, if she wanted it and you said it first she lost her touch with her inner self! It's different when she doesn't really wants to and when she does! Since you want it you have to learn if she wants it too! Anyway, I'm out!
 

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DonJuanit0 said:
Yeah, if she wanted it and you said it first she lost her touch with her inner self! It's different when she doesn't really wants to and when she does! Since you want it you have to learn if she wants it too! Anyway, I'm out!
Run along please. The grownups are talking.
 
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I think the man should decide whether or not he is or isn't exclusive.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I can't believe how some of you with decent rep say the man should ask for exclusivity. You don't deserve that rep. Let the woman come to you, period.

This court is adjourned.
 

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perseverance said:
I think the man should decide whether or not he is or isn't exclusive.
absolutely.

and she is a good catch that I've already decided to be exclusive with, but
she'll have to ask about it before I admit!
 
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Robyn923b said:
I can't believe how some of you with decent rep say the man should ask for exclusivity. You don't deserve that rep. Let the woman come to you, period.

This court is adjourned.
You don't ask for permission, you state things how you see them, if she is interested in you enough and wants a relationship with you she'll agree.
 

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That made me crack up... Especially the last part.
 

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perseverance said:
You don't ask for permission, you state things how you see them, if she is interested in you enough and wants a relationship with you she'll agree.
Exactly
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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escaleraroyal said:
sorry, but your sistas hot?

ha ha yeah actually.

one could lose a few lbs but looks great for 30

the other looks great for 40 and is happily married to a millionaire. :)
 

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I'm usually on the "a man goes for what he wants" boat but not in any case related to women, the same moment she has balance and power over a man is the same moment where she lose part of her interest.

It's not a conscious thing, it seems they are just made like that.
When she sees she own you emotionally she lose interest as much as a man stop pedalising a woman he just possesed physically.

Real men go for what they want when there's a conflict with potential risks and something to be taken, when something has to be "given" you cannot go for it as if it had to be "taken".
 

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Avoid discussions with women about these topics. Even your sisters.

Nothing good ever comes from it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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