Am I the only one that thinks he should keep going? She said she still wants to hang out, so I think it would be best to go on another "date" and escalate as far as she will go. If she still trying to LJBF, you just tell her you have enough friends and then go NC.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
LJBF, with a perplexing twist
- Thread starter Doc Freezy
- Start date
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
CarlitosWay
Master Don Juan
hmmmm
I think Doc should just say **** it one night escalate her ass real hard (neck and earlobes, plus biting is my forte jajaja) get her panties wet, spank her ass like you mean it. In her mind she might be thinking "no no no"...but her body will say "yes yes yes" yet progress on pull them panties off munch her box out until she pulses with orgasmic euphoria and push it farther if you can ..
Then chill back and worse comes to worse you get a **** buddy.
Seeing as she is attracted to him otherwise she wouldn't have gone out on two dates and made out with the guy.goodfoot said:
I think Doc should just say **** it one night escalate her ass real hard (neck and earlobes, plus biting is my forte jajaja) get her panties wet, spank her ass like you mean it. In her mind she might be thinking "no no no"...but her body will say "yes yes yes" yet progress on pull them panties off munch her box out until she pulses with orgasmic euphoria and push it farther if you can ..
Then chill back and worse comes to worse you get a **** buddy.
Doc Freezy
Don Juan
goodfoot said:
exactly what I was thinking.
I'll keep you posted, im on day 2 of NC
Doc Freezy
Don Juan
DJ's i have an update, not 2 minutes ago said HB texted me, " I miss chu. How you been? X"
thoughts and advice, schnell.
thoughts and advice, schnell.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
Doc Freezy said:
I could translate that for our Nth American cousins,but it is just too cringeworthy.
Doc, get a grip. She is toying with you, and she sent that text to test whether you are still dangling at the end of that long string.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Doc Freezy
Don Juan
i'll give it a couple of weeks,
then chuck her a C/f message or a basic opener? pretend like we never even knew each other before the text.
Until then i'll keep ya's posted on the NC, sounds riveting i know.
Off to buy a Ben Sherman suit, Ooroo pimps.
then chuck her a C/f message or a basic opener? pretend like we never even knew each other before the text.
Until then i'll keep ya's posted on the NC, sounds riveting i know.
Off to buy a Ben Sherman suit, Ooroo pimps.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
C+ F is either going to work like a charm or fail miserably.Doc Freezy said:
Be very careful.
Doc Freezy
Don Juan
just received a text, "You dont talk to me anymore lol"
keeping in mind she sends superfluous lols in texts.
Reply or keep the NC chugging along?
keeping in mind she sends superfluous lols in texts.
Reply or keep the NC chugging along?
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Kailex
Master Don Juan
This... again.SamMalone said:
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Keep NC. When she starts getting serious and really wanting an answer why, we'll tell you what to do next.
Doc Freezy
Don Juan
also a chance (20%) i may see her tonight, cold shoulder or try and bring a girl in front of her?
Doc Freezy
Don Juan
Just for those truly loyal DF supporters i have an update from tonight.
So i went out to the city tonight attend a few clubs* with my mates. We started at this one decent club but just had a dance and beer with the lads before we left at around 2 for this other club. At this other club, we'll name blue square for the purpose of the conversation, I started to get in a groove, gave the door ***** a giggle or 2, progressed to dancing with a few biddy's which was fun, killed this one girl with an opener (she goes 'i dont know you', i said 'we met', she asked where, and in the corniest yet driest tone i said "in your dreams". She ate that shiz up, but i digress.
So i see the girl in question, said hi at the start of the night, quick kiss and hug then i left before she could say a word, saw her a few times during the night and made sure not to give EC or even look and when possible danced with a girl or 2. she sends me a text, "Wow rude much", i dont respond, Then as im leaving i walk up to her and play some push/pull, i say "you alright for a lift home", she says yes as i expected and then she grabs my hand to stop me from leaving and asks why im ignoring her, I pry my hand away from her and advised i have to go. Then as im leaving her friend next to her says "is that the one?"
Sorry about the length fellas, felt i should give the full down low though.
*Australian clubs are not similar to American clubs at all, dont think of Akon and grinding, think more crookers/bloody beetroots and melbourne shuffling
So i went out to the city tonight attend a few clubs* with my mates. We started at this one decent club but just had a dance and beer with the lads before we left at around 2 for this other club. At this other club, we'll name blue square for the purpose of the conversation, I started to get in a groove, gave the door ***** a giggle or 2, progressed to dancing with a few biddy's which was fun, killed this one girl with an opener (she goes 'i dont know you', i said 'we met', she asked where, and in the corniest yet driest tone i said "in your dreams". She ate that shiz up, but i digress.
So i see the girl in question, said hi at the start of the night, quick kiss and hug then i left before she could say a word, saw her a few times during the night and made sure not to give EC or even look and when possible danced with a girl or 2. she sends me a text, "Wow rude much", i dont respond, Then as im leaving i walk up to her and play some push/pull, i say "you alright for a lift home", she says yes as i expected and then she grabs my hand to stop me from leaving and asks why im ignoring her, I pry my hand away from her and advised i have to go. Then as im leaving her friend next to her says "is that the one?"
Sorry about the length fellas, felt i should give the full down low though.
*Australian clubs are not similar to American clubs at all, dont think of Akon and grinding, think more crookers/bloody beetroots and melbourne shuffling