"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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LJBF Recovery

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Hey guys,

I've just started working on my game, and I have a lot to learn. But the first steps have been taken.

I took this girl out recently, a classmate, and we had a good time, I was teasing her etc, and things went well. Thing is, I'm just learning my game, and it was weak. I was too "open" and "honest", and she ended up feeling pressured out by me, that I came on too strong, as well as inexperienced.

So I got a reluctantly given LJBF. I think it is both because of her hesitancy of us being classmates, her past, and me coming on too strong. All my fault, if I had done my job better it wouldn't have been a problem.

So I've been backing off from her, not initiating contact, and she has been coming up to me in class, and messaging me on friday before lectures to hang out. In short, I've been trying to portray a more confident, strong, busy persona, while not losing the brownie points I got through being so honest, and sensitive, previously. Showing that us hooking up is not such a dramatic deal.

So keep the "benefits" of my previous approach, while not being submissive to her, letting her come to me.

So where do I go to from here? I've started researching more on the dating game, and I've crushed my emotional pull for her. Now I'm more motivated to succeed out of me wanting to, than me needing to.

Should I wait for her to give me a signal? Should I try escalating it slowly when we are in person, non verbally? Ask her out again in some time?

I'm also going for other girls. This is just one whom I find is quite cool, and I want to fix the damage I did.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Keep on doing what you're doing. Don't escalate things or ask her out again. because of your previous openness she understands that you're into her and might become guarded if she detects attempts to re-approach her. If you spark interest in her she won't be shy about showing it as she knows there's probably no chance of you rejecting her.
 

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dvjackson said:
Keep on doing what you're doing. Don't escalate things or ask her out again. because of your previous openness she understands that you're into her and might become guarded if she detects attempts to re-approach her. If you spark interest in her she won't be shy about showing it as she knows there's probably no chance of you rejecting her.
↑ ↑ Agreed.
 

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Thanks guys.

Yeah, I'm still doing what I'm doing, avoiding her unless we pass each other in hallways at which point we greet and chat lightly, but still not going to her first, nor messaging her. She is always approaching me in class now.

It's frustrating though. I want to not have to do this. I got into her because she is a really cool chick, and I know I can't become good friends with her while I have ulterior motives.

Still.

Wish I could just become close, but that's life.

She isn't going anywhere though, and I suppose time is on my side.

It's my 21st late next month, and she can't make it, being out of town. I was thinking of inviting her round to my house for a jam session ( she sings and wants to learn guitar), not just the two of us, some musician mates as well, and seeing how things are. I can play some decent blues/soul/jazz guitar, and it could be a cool way to establish some power and get in some physical contact.

After that though, I'll go back to being passive, letting her come to me.

Horrible idea? Average?

In short, how long do I distance myself from her?

Thoughts?

(My gut is telling me it's too soon to be having thoughts of inviting her out, and she can still get to know me by her putting in the effort, if I don't act a complete jackass, which I am not. So it's just me crushing on her, and I need to reevalute closer to the time)
 
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Girl got pissed when I asked her about her ljbf

A girl I met one night and cuddled with ( moderate comforting & attraction , and couldnt close as her friend was also sleeping on the same bed ) put me in the friendzone. She said , "no date. im not coming for dinner or movie night. Only friends...sure why not " (when i asked her out again)
to which i replied "What kind of friends did you have in mind? Cuddle buddies? Or do you need someone to hold your purse?" ( this was suggested by Naughty Ninja)

and she replied with "What the heck? Just let it be..Forget about it..No friends. "

I think i pretty much screwed it up. Should I have said something else ? What can i possible reply her back now ? I think she took it the wrong way. I was just trying to be witty
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Girl got pissed when I asked her about her ljbf

A girl I met one night and cuddled with ( moderate comforting & attraction , and couldnt close as her friend was also sleeping on the same bed ) put me in the friendzone. She said , "no date. im not coming for dinner or movie night. Only friends...sure why not " (when i asked her out again)
to which i replied "What kind of friends did you have in mind? Cuddle buddies? Or do you need someone to hold your purse?" ( this was suggested by Naughty Ninja)

and she replied with "What the heck? Just let it be..Forget about it..No friends. "

I think i pretty much screwed it up. Should I have said something else ? What can i possible reply her back now ? I think she took it the wrong way. I was just trying to be witty
 

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You have Oneitis for a chick who LJBFed you.

Let that sink in.

Now find someone else to date.
 
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