"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Living among our means, what happens when u date a hb9

Who Dares Win

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This is not a field report, I'll probably open an other thread later to ask feedback about how to deal with something which is in fact above my means.

Anyway a short feedback, late 20s 5'11 athletic but nothing that turns head around while fully dressed, being a zero most of my life and managed to fix it up by grabbing my balls and saying enough that I would have done anything in my power whatever the cost, my confidence comes from the fact that I got what I wasnt suppose to get,that I escaped from the prison built on me but somehow still suffer from my past condition sometime, I may say a 7 in look and a 8 in personality (as if any girl give a fvck if u dont pass the look test).

So you can imagine how clubbing is for me, going there either with friends or alone, approaching girls to be either blown away right after or chasing them for a good half a hour before see if something could come out of them or not... some girl may approach me (below 6) some girl may stay close to me to invite me to approach (hb6-7) others are hard clients (hb8+).

Ok well now imagine that out of ability, fate and luck I manage to have an hb9 to go out with me, and take her to the club where we both go heavy on alchool till our inhibitions disappear, well let me tell you guys you go from zero to hero near yourself and to all others.
I spoke about her many times here in an year span, had "dates" with her sometimes although she is not exactly "available".

First of all you feel like you're playing in god mode when the bouncers or the bar speak to you but cant help to quickly look at her before returning to you, the girls that in any other day were consciuosly doing their best to avoid eye contact, now stare at the two of you while you kiss and rub each other.

Not sure if its an allucination but I could say that even on the dance floor people were making space to us, and the girls were pointing their chest toward us and not doing anything to pretend that "they dont care or they're having fun by themselves".

I spare you the details of the other dirty things we did, but the point is that its really unbelievable how it feels to move from zero to hero even when you're conscious that such situation in that moment is above your means.

I cant really blame those guys who cheat, trick or even commit crimes to have a taste of that, I guess there's no chemical that can reproduce such sensation.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Nope I usually date hb 6-7 and nothing like that ever happened, I guess the best benchmark is when girls around become blue colored out of envy for someone of a better stock than them.
 

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Who Dares Win said:
I spare you the details of the other dirty things we did, but the point is that its really unbelievable how it feels to move from zero to hero even when you're conscious that such situation in that moment is above your means.

I cant really blame those guys who cheat, trick or even commit crimes to have a taste of that, I guess there's no chemical that can reproduce such sensation.
I've been there and I know what you mean, it can be quite a rush. You can call it preselection, but the unfortunate truth is that they are merely lending you their value (unless you're a celebrity or incredibly wealthy). In other words, as you inferred, the reason all eyes are on you is because she is so hot. The tradeoff is that her value is fleeting, her looks will fade. The value you have will remain, or even increase.
 

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Maybe it's just your generation. Bouncers, woman-on-woman dancers giving lezbo attention to your date, etc., are pretty much sordid squalor and low-life nightlife stuff. Congratulations for fvcking a HB9, but really, if she goes to such places, she's the sort of trash that you're supposed to be screening out of your life.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Good post OP, I'd like to hear more about experiences from people who normally date 6s (as do we all) and the times when they went out with 8s and up.

I dated a Brazilian HB8.5 for a couple of weeks back in 2008. This was before I limited my dating to chicks who would put out on the first date. We went out 4-5 times before she put out and she was so terrible in the sack that I had to dump her. Major disappointment.

But in that time we went out and did stuff in public and I was always in a completely different mood with her vis-a-vis the 5s and 6s I normally go out with. I literally would look around and think, "My girl is the hottest girl in the room." Guys would check her out and then check me out. I actually felt like guys were checking me out more than girls, strangely. As if they were thinking, "Who's this guy to get a girl like that?"

We played pool one time and I remember that I would be concentrating on my shot, and then after taking the shot I'd look up and feel a little spurt of excitement when I saw her again. Like "Oh wow, that's right, she's really hot." Even after taking my eyes off her for just a minute, the pleasure of seeing her again made my heart skip a beat.

The interesting thing was that she had a number of Brazilian girlfriends who were just as hot as she was. They all had boyfriends and I went out once as a group with them. I felt like I was finally one of the popular kids because we were the most attractive group of people at the bar we went to. The guys were all taller and better looking than I was by far. Nice guys though. Totally made me feel like I was welcomed.

It was an interesting situation and one I won't soon forget.
 
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