"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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RedPill

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This forum has posters from all over the world, and from all walks of life.

The diversity here is amazing. We are all at different stages of life with different schedules. We have different attitudes, beliefs, and skill sets.

The only way anyone here would possibly consider actually reserving time out of their personal life to contribute to a real-time discussion is if there were genuinely productive and valuable conversations taking place. This "Cheers"-esque 'place to drop by where everybody knows your name' thing is a worthless cause and a waste of time.

So instead of trying to come up with some magic ideal time that's centric to the schedules of the guys with careers and the guys in school across a dozen different time zones, let's cover first things first to see if the idea of a live chat even makes sense. Unless people are willing to show some leadership and contribute to meaningful topics that have real-world utility, nobody will participate. I think the challenge here is that having such discussions would require a requisite level of maturity that is infrequently demonstrated on this forum. I would love to be proven wrong, however.

Let's hear some feedback.

What different topics (within the conceptual realm of sosuave) would interest *you* to the point of participation?

For example, here are some topics I think would make for compelling real-time discussions:
* Living a masculine lifestyle in a feminized culture​
* Value vs. marketability as they relate to sexual dynamics​

What do you think?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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mpimpin

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Personally I have to agree with Redpill. I'm not sure that a specific time could be set. It could work with a handful of people that could do it maybe.
 

sam3083

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I agree. Im in Australia, and a student (so I have bizzare and irregular sleeping patterns), so it would be quite unlikely I would be able to participate in the live chat.
However, I am extremely interested in the 'living a masculine life in a femenized world' topics, as well as many other DJ, topics that only we as DJ's can discuss.
Hence, I propose that we do in fact set a time for the discussion to take place, but we take a transcipt of the conversation, in an easy to read format, and make it available on the forums, for the rest of us.

The live chat is an excellent idea, as the synergistic effect of being able to bounce ideas off one another instantly will no doubt shed some light on at least some topics
 

penkitten

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i purpose we meet on sunday nights at 10 eastern time .
topic is myth of a quality woman from our mature man forum.
please come :)
 

Ken785

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MAN, I HOPE THIS CHAT KICKS OFF SOON!! LET EVERYONE KNOW!! i know everyones tired of posting threads when they just have a small question or story they wanna tell...why not get instant opinions and answers from other members??
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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we will be meeting tonight ( sunday nights at 10 eastern time) .
topic is myth of a quality woman from our mature man forum.
please come :)
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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penkitten said:
we will be meeting tonight ( sunday nights at 10 eastern time) .
topic is myth of a quality woman from our mature man forum.
please come :)
Here's another suggestion (I have a lot of them even though I've yet been able to make a chat), could a mod or admin check into fixing the calendar function so that things can be scheduled after 12/31/2006? Chat organizers could then post a public schedule; maybe there could be an automatic notification to forum members when things are added.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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penkitten

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update:
i think we have come up with something that will be helpful to all the people that want to be a part of chat nights.
if you will pm me with your email addy...(they will be kept confidential between redpill and i )
i will compile a list of everyone and then whenever we set discussion topics and dates/times, i can mass mail them to everyone, so that way everyone knows ahead of time.
this will be a good way to indicate that there will be a crowd of people in there to discuss the topic chosen for the time slot, but then you can just stay and continue chatting.

the chat room is free, so it has no big whoops to it... so please do not get disappointed when you can not pm the others secretly or play sounds.

the room is also there, for any of you to meet up on your own and discuss whatever you want without scheduling anything (if you are bored) but if you want to get a crowd in there, then you will have to work for it the sosuave way. how would you do this? you would come up with a great topic and a time/date that you want to schedule it and pm me (so the invitations can get sent to all the email addys) or you may send the invites out to the people that you personally have email addys for.
remember, people are asking for a few days (3) notice on specific topics.


if you have any questions or concerns, you can address them here or feel free to pm me.
 

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This Sunday's Chat Nights Topic : An Evening with the Joekerr
11-11-07 10 pm eastern time
 
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Penkitty, I'll do next weeks topic -- I can't be at this weeks rumble --- it would be a good idea if you copy and paste all of the convo and put in a tread and then that topic could be discussed!
I
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Last Man Standing said:
Penkitty, I'll do next weeks topic -- I can't be at this weeks rumble --- it would be a good idea if you copy and paste all of the convo and put in a tread and then that topic could be discussed!
I
Sunday Night Chats 11-17-07 10pm eastern Topic to be announced Led by Last Man Standing
 
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penkitten

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shouldnt be
should be no password.
let me know if you cant get in
 

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I can't. I entered my alias and then tried to enter the room. But it said, "You must enter the password to enter the room."
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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