Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
Yeah, latinoman, I hear that about the cutting. The fighters I know who cut to make weight for a fight all quit drinking. I think beer is the only thing keeping my own body fat percentage in the double digits.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Well i drink.. but my friends dont.. anyway.. i call my self a social drinker... ( well i only have a drink ocassionaly"onthepath said:hey guys
is there anyone here who doesn't drink?
i've tried giving it up, but am noticing several social "handicaps" and am wondering how you would handle it
like is it just a matter of still going to pubs (for work related and other social / women related occasions) and drinking coke?
and if you meet someone, how would the "let's meet for a drink" routine work?
cheers
how bout goin to the bar to hang out with the boys?? ever thought of that?? and maybe catch one or two chicks.. but the priority being to chill with the boys and talk **** half the night.iqqi said:Guys who go to the bar and order sprite all night long while trying to pick up drunk chicks are CREEPY.
Or they just look retarded. Bars = drinks.
Not coke or sprite.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I've seen it happen and most of the the time the common denominator is (drumroll please)x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x:x: Alcohol.Getting into a fight, behind bars, kicked out
PhatE1vis said:You nay-sayers obviously have no idea how to drink responsibly. It enhances life if done right. And I agree, it's a mess if done wrong.
I'm not telling anyone to drink or not to drink. But calling it a crutch and putting people down who decided to partake is pretty lame.
Let's take a look at some of the "points" made in this post.
1. It makes you fat and lazy: I get up for work everyday at 5 am, run marathons, and have a six pack.
2. Maybe have a DUI: I've been drinking for years and have never gotten behind the wheel when I shouldn't have. Again, it's about responsibility.
3. Make an azz out of yourself: many people do this when sober.
4. Getting into a fight, behind bars, kicked out: if you can't drink without these things happening, I agree that you probably shouldn't be drinking.
5. You don't have game without drinking: you guys have all kinds of tricks for upping your game. 3 second rules, canned lines, tons of BS that I would never think of trying. A little alcohol opens the flow, and I would say makes you more of a natural.
Cheers!
Hell Yeah!!! :rockon:j0n024 said:.....it "Enhances," your life.....howso? By being buzzed and feeling good about yourself...is that what you mean, becuase if you need beer to feel good about yourself then you have bigger problems then drinking...
Whoa, you lost me...j0n024 said:..... and should read the bible....
PhatE1vis said:I'm not telling anyone to drink or not to drink. But calling it a crutch and putting people down who decided to partake is pretty lame.
Let's take a look at some of the "points" made in this post.
1. It makes you fat and lazy: I get up for work everyday at 5 am, run marathons, and have a six pack.
2. Maybe have a DUI: I've been drinking for years and have never gotten behind the wheel when I shouldn't have. Again, it's about responsibility.
3. Make an azz out of yourself: many people do this when sober.
4. Getting into a fight, behind bars, kicked out: if you can't drink without these things happening, I agree that you probably shouldn't be drinking.
5. You don't have game without drinking: you guys have all kinds of tricks for upping your game. 3 second rules, canned lines, tons of BS that I would never think of trying. A little alcohol opens the flow, and I would say makes you more of a natural.
Cheers!
I stand by that statement 100%. This isn't Romper Room. I don't care about hurting some dude's feelings over the internet or whether or not you think it will be perceived as lame.Magma said:IF YOU CAN'T HOOK UP WITHOUT BOOZE, YOU HAVE NO GAME. PERIOD.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
I missed in the thread where Magma inferred morality about how he feels about using alcohol as a crutch. I didn't see him say that people shouldn't drink, just that it's unnatural to be defendant on it in order to sarge women.PhatE1vis said:...
I kid, I kid, that's a bit of a straw man argument. But you seem to have a bit of a moralistic view on the whole alcohol thing. Suppose I don't use it as a crutch. Suppose I actually enjoy the taste of beer, the beauty of the perfect pint, the enjoyment of sitting back with friends and relaxing over a drink? That's where the life enhancement comes in.
Gin and tonic is my drink of choice. First thing I do when I get it is throw the straw away.Francisco d'Anconia said:Now you're saying that girls pay attention to what a guy drinks? I understand about presentation, a drink with an umbrella in it does look a bit strange but come on. What if the guy is drinking a gin and tonic?
I will say one thing to the guys though, whatever you choose to drink, take the straw out and leave it on the bar, do not use it. I don't care what you're drinking, you lose 30 "cool points" in looks when you're sucking on a straw. Don't believe me, look in the mirror and do the suck face. Lesson learned.
And for the record even though I do drink, 8 times out of 10 I am drinking something non-alcoholic when I'm at a club. Half of the time it's water. With that said, it's not necessary to nurse a glass when your in a club. Get you're ass out on the dance floor and hold a woman instead of a glass! :cuss:
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
If you want to stop drinking and have been unable to do so no matter how much will power you've attempted to put in place, there is a possibility you are an alcoholic which is a disease some people have. The social handicaps that seem to dissapear while drinking only appear to be dissapearing because alcohol is cunning enough to make you think they are.onthepath said:hey guys
is there anyone here who doesn't drink?
i've tried giving it up, but am noticing several social "handicaps" and am wondering how you would handle it
like is it just a matter of still going to pubs (for work related and other social / women related occasions) and drinking coke?
and if you meet someone, how would the "let's meet for a drink" routine work?
cheers
The reason you did not see an increase in the quality of your life when abstaining from alcohol is because you thought by just not drinking your life would suddenly increase in quality. Staying sober is only a step in improving the quality of your life. Important also is getting rid of all the resentment, anger and regret you have towards others and yourself for things they have done to you and things you have done to yourself. If you already have done this and continue to do this, your life would already be better.MotownMack said:I have gone back and forth in terms of the amount of beer I drink- there have been periods in my life where I have drank often (every day), and some where I didn't drink much.
Obviously, doing too much can make you fat and lazy. But I can also tell you that there was no noticeable increase in the quality of my life during those times where I absolutely abstained from a month or more.
I was just bored, probably not of fun to be around, and felt like I was missing out.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.