"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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onthepath

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hey guys

is there anyone here who doesn't drink?

i've tried giving it up, but am noticing several social "handicaps" and am wondering how you would handle it

like is it just a matter of still going to pubs (for work related and other social / women related occasions) and drinking coke?

and if you meet someone, how would the "let's meet for a drink" routine work?

cheers
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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In a group of carnivores you feel like the vegetarian, because you don't drink no more.

Making changes in life style would mean you make changes to your "LIFE" style.

Find people who like the coffee house more then the bar.
 

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Guys who go to the bar and order sprite all night long while trying to pick up drunk chicks are CREEPY.

Or they just look retarded. Bars = drinks.

Not coke or sprite.
 

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I agree with iqqi...you'll get some weird looks if you're the guy drinking soda. Drinkers have more earning potential than non-drinkers. It's all about who you socialize with. Plus, we've all heard about the health benefits of moderate drinking.

Check this out:
http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/14/news/funny/drinking_earnings/index.htm/

It's really just a choice. Personally, I love to throw a few back, but I also have friends who will nurse a beer for hours just for the social benefits.
 

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OP, don't listen to the naysayers. If you don't wanna drink, don't drink. it's only a handicap if you think it's a handicap. And there are far more healthier things to do than the mythical "benefit" of moderate drinking.

What's retarded is drinking because you are worried about what other people might think about you.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I have gone back and forth in terms of the amount of beer I drink- there have been periods in my life where I have drank often (every day), and some where I didn't drink much.

Obviously, doing too much can make you fat and lazy. But I can also tell you that there was no noticeable increase in the quality of my life during those times where I absolutely abstained from a month or more.

I was just bored, probably not of fun to be around, and felt like I was missing out.
 

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Iqqi and PhatE1vis have no clue.
Nobody knows the difference between a Jack and Coke and just Coke. Or a cranberry an vodka and just a cranberry.
 

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I'm giving it up, but it really does help lose the inhibitions. I don't really want to drink anymore because I'm not in full control. I'm just going to keep going out and drink cokes. It won't be so bad. I'll probably enjoy it.

If I drink, there will be a 2 beer maximum. Then after that, there will be a 2 beer maximum. Then after that, there will be a 2 beer maximum. Then after that...I'm drunk. Ok, maybe I shouldn't drink.
 

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iqqi said:
Guys who go to the bar and order sprite all night long while trying to pick up drunk chicks are CREEPY.

Or they just look retarded. Bars = drinks.

Not coke or sprite.
You're retarded. Having said that...



I don't drink. Gave it up a couple of years ago for my own reasons. I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

BOOZE IS A CRUTCH! It's a crutch for your insecurities, and quitting the sauce will show you exactly where your insecurities lie with women. When I go to the club or bar, I order bottled water, or cranberry juice (good for the urinary tract), or OJ, or soda water with two limes (always TWO limes, I'm picky and a bit OCD), or a Red Bull, or whatever. Sometimes I'll even get an O'Doule's, although it tastes like Iqqi's azzhole I'm sure.

Booze is a crutch. For those of you that can't go out without drinking, I feel sorry for you. You waste money, get fat, get hangovers and waste your day in bed, make an azz out of yourself on occasion, maybe have a DUI, or whatever.

IF YOU CAN'T HOOK UP WITHOUT BOOZE, YOU HAVE NO GAME. PERIOD.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I don't drink at all.

Of course, I have no success with women yet, either, but hopefully this will change as I concentrate on it.
 

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Magma said:
Booze is a crutch. For those of you that can't go out without drinking, I feel sorry for you. You waste money, get fat, get hangovers and waste your day in bed, make an azz out of yourself on occasion, maybe have a DUI, or whatever.

IF YOU CAN'T HOOK UP WITHOUT BOOZE, YOU HAVE NO GAME. PERIOD.
This is so true. There are so many negatives to drinking.
 

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Sorry guys, I love drinking.

In saying that, over drinking kills your game drastically.

One beer will be the teaser so buy two unless you love being in line for the first hour and a half trying to purchase the second.

Two beers will help adjust to the club environment and your movement will no longer be stiff

Three beers will help with approach anxiety and helps your inhibitions decline. This is the point where you start gaming girls because you're no longer in your own way. Does it help your game, of course not but it allows you bring it out without worrying about rejection.

Gaming girls after four beers can get tricky because four beers will only lead to wanting more beers which will eventually lead to any of the following:

1. Getting no @ss at all
2. Getting into a fight for no reason then...
3. Getting kicked out of the club and thrown into back of a police car, arrested for disorderly conduct.
4. Only to wake up hungover behind bars.

Peace Out
 

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You nay-sayers obviously have no idea how to drink responsibly. It enhances life if done right. And I agree, it's a mess if done wrong.

I'm not telling anyone to drink or not to drink. But calling it a crutch and putting people down who decided to partake is pretty lame.

Let's take a look at some of the "points" made in this post.

1. It makes you fat and lazy: I get up for work everyday at 5 am, run marathons, and have a six pack.

2. Maybe have a DUI: I've been drinking for years and have never gotten behind the wheel when I shouldn't have. Again, it's about responsibility.

3. Make an azz out of yourself: many people do this when sober.

4. Getting into a fight, behind bars, kicked out: if you can't drink without these things happening, I agree that you probably shouldn't be drinking.

5. You don't have game without drinking: you guys have all kinds of tricks for upping your game. 3 second rules, canned lines, tons of BS that I would never think of trying. A little alcohol opens the flow, and I would say makes you more of a natural.

Cheers!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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iqqi said:
Guys who go to the bar and order sprite all night long while trying to pick up drunk chicks are CREEPY.

Or they just look retarded. Bars = drinks.

Not coke or sprite.
If you happen to be the duty driver...you can always order a coke or something in such a fashion that it looks like an alcoholic beverage.

A man that goes out concerned about what others might think about him is a man that lacks confident. I NEVER go out concerned about what others might think about me...instead, I go out concerned about what I might think of others.
 

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iqqi said:
Guys who go to the bar and order sprite all night long while trying to pick up drunk chicks are CREEPY.

Or they just look retarded. Bars = drinks.

Not coke or sprite.
Now you're saying that girls pay attention to what a guy drinks? I understand about presentation, a drink with an umbrella in it does look a bit strange but come on. What if the guy is drinking a gin and tonic?

I will say one thing to the guys though, whatever you choose to drink, take the straw out and leave it on the bar, do not use it. I don't care what you're drinking, you lose 30 "cool points" in looks when you're sucking on a straw. Don't believe me, look in the mirror and do the suck face. Lesson learned.

And for the record even though I do drink, 8 times out of 10 I am drinking something non-alcoholic when I'm at a club. Half of the time it's water. With that said, it's not necessary to nurse a glass when your in a club. Get you're ass out on the dance floor and hold a woman instead of a glass! :cuss:
 

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pull a bruce wayne and get that club soda or a coke. If people ask me why I'm not drinking I'll tell em on cutting/on a diet. Or that I'm driving my friends. Or that I've had enuff already and I'm sobering up. They never ask more than once...they don't really care what the hell your doing as long as your having fun. Now if your being weird or creepy it doesnt matter if your drinking or not.
 

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When I used to be VERY into cutting (six pack type)...I only drank one glass of wine a month. That was in my early to mid 30s. I did not care what people thought. I did not go to bars, I went to nightclubs, so I was doing lot of dancing too so not drinking became a non-issue.

I drink now because I don't have the time to get the CUTTING (as six pack). Not enough time between making money, having lot of sex, and spending time with the kids. (Althought, I still work out). ;)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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