"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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xenoson

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hi. so ive known this girl for a while now, years actually. we became good friends, had a great connection and spent alot of time together. she tells me one day while we eat, that she likes this other guy, and tells me she wants to pursue a relationship with him. long story short, they have like an off and on thing, nothing serious, they never got to the relationship part. anyway, 7 months go by and its still the same, until after disappointments she decides to cut it off. heres where im getting confused:

near the end of w/e it is they were having, she was asking to spend more time with me. go to eat, hang out etc.

after they part ways, and we begin to hang out more, almost everyday she is telling me about guys that hit on her. she goes to work? guy hits on her. checks her mail? guy hits on her. my response is pretty dry.

i read on another post from way back in the day on here that if a girl tells you about a guy she likes, your friend zoned. even though they never got even remotely serious, she still liked him. then after, w/e it is they had or w/e, she starts telling me about all the guys and stuff. and like i said, before they were "officially done" with their thing, she wants to spend more time doing things like taking walks, driving around etc.

i dont know what to do. im a friend or not?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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blind_one

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From the initial observation, yes you are deep in the friendzone and depending on the lacking context you might be her emotional tampon.

i dont know what to do. im a friend or not?
I believe you are, but the true question should be what do You want and how can You achieve it.

How old are both of you ?
 

BackInTheGame78

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hi. so ive known this girl for a while now, years actually. we became good friends, had a great connection and spent alot of time together. she tells me one day while we eat, that she likes this other guy, and tells me she wants to pursue a relationship with him. long story short, they have like an off and on thing, nothing serious, they never got to the relationship part. anyway, 7 months go by and its still the same, until after disappointments she decides to cut it off. heres where im getting confused:

near the end of w/e it is they were having, she was asking to spend more time with me. go to eat, hang out etc.

after they part ways, and we begin to hang out more, almost everyday she is telling me about guys that hit on her. she goes to work? guy hits on her. checks her mail? guy hits on her. my response is pretty dry.

i read on another post from way back in the day on here that if a girl tells you about a guy she likes, your friend zoned. even though they never got even remotely serious, she still liked him. then after, w/e it is they had or w/e, she starts telling me about all the guys and stuff. and like i said, before they were "officially done" with their thing, she wants to spend more time doing things like taking walks, driving around etc.

i dont know what to do. im a friend or not?
Huh? You've known her for years, have done nothing sexually with her and don't know what you are by now?

What world do you live in?
 

RangerMIke

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You are a gay male girlfriend. If you want this women you have to stop doing friend sh!t. Your chance of success is practically nil but the only way you have a chance is to do the following:

Break contact refuse to see her, don't be a **** about it, but tell her you are seeing other women and you just don't have time, if she asks about them, tell her you don;t kiss and tell.

Go out and hit up other women and go out with them. Meanwhile do not contact or communicate with her at all. I'm not giving you a time frame, but it should be at least a month.

Work on yourself, lift weights, lose weight, get fit, buy some new clothes get a hair cut. Improve yourself... don;t do it for her.. you need to put HER out of your mind, just work on yourself.

Then when you think it makes sense see her again, try and make a date at night, then treat her like a woman on a first date, and act like a man. If she likes you she will respond. Otherwise if she doesn't respond the way you like, go back to what you were doing and see other girls.

You have to stop thinking about her.... STOP thinking about her. Best way to do this is bang other chicks.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Poon King

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Its extremely easy to find out where you stand with ANY woman at ANY time. At least if you have balls. All you have to do is make a move.

Based on this post you are probably in the friendzone. Not sure why you would associate with a woman you are attracted to but not dating/f*cking. What is the point? This cowardice is something that turns women OFF from being attracted to you. But women will still take full advantage of it since they get lots of free attention and a therapist to whine/b!tch too.

You are her therapist.. not someone she wants to date.. based on the information you provided.

Make a f*cking move. Don't post questions asking what a woman is thinking. You can find out exactly where you stand with ANY woman at any time by putting her in a situation where she has to make a decision.

Stop being a chicken sh!t.
 
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