"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Let's get superficial (shallow), what can't you stand about a woman?

Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by seabreeze
Okay, since I'm a woman, I think it will create a little balance here if I describe what I LIKE about women:

1. tenderness
2. nurturing
3. sisterhood
4. natural beauty
5. childbirth
6. compassion
7. loyalty
8. encouraging
9. supportive
10. resilient
11. soft, shapely, feminine
12. emotional, sentimental
13. submissive
14. complimentary
15. intuitive

But I'm not trying to knock you guys! I think that some of your answers are good and gives me a lot to think about!
SB;)
Good idea and definitely a good post. My whole intent was to give the guys something to think about when qualifying but I'm truly impressed that you are taking some of the things to heart too.

BTW, I agree with your post with the caveat that items 11 thru 14 aren't excessive. Understand that I'm in Minnesota and:

  1. Overly soft, shapely and feminine here look like the Michelin Man and are known in other states as "Snow Cows."
  2. Dating overly emotional and sentimental women takes a lot of work bolstering her self esteem.
  3. Overly submissive women tend to get boring possibly causing guys to stray. That submissivness is known as "Minnesota Nice" around here but it's just a lame front for passive agression.
  4. Over complimentary women don't seem sincere, plus in the back of your mind you wonder if she just wants something.
    [/list=1]

    But outside of that, you can never have too much of the rest of your list... Except maybe the childbirth thing.... :p
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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"But outside of that, you can never have too much of the rest of your list... Except maybe the childbirth thing...."

Your so cute, Fran.
SB:p
 

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In no particular order:

-No tits
-Smoker
-Alcoholic
-Drug Addict
-*****
-Religious Fundamentalist
-An overall mean/negative attitude (B*tch)
-Arrogant
-Judges Everybody based on the littlest thing
 

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
2Wyldfire:

You watch too much porn :D
No, but my teenage son does...and charges it to his aunt's pay-per-view bill.

Don't ask...
 

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Originally posted by diplomatic_lie
I don't get this whole foreskin thing. Isn't it only Jewish guys who get their foreskin cut off?
yah, in England only Jewish people get it cut off. Its normal to have one here. If it is cut off, it desensitises the penis, which is why they leave it on unless there is a special religious or medical need. Or in hot countries like singapore, for hygiene. this is as opposed to the states where it appears to be more common for them all to be routinely lopped off at birth.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I cant stand when a woman uses inferior software and poses as a man on a dating forum. *looks at Francisco...or should I say Francisca*
 

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Absolute (!) turn-offs:

Smoker
hirsute (upper lip, arm pits, *****)
fat ass
dumb
negative mental attitude
lack of hygiene (unwashed hair...)


little turn-offs:

talks too much
self-centered
too much make-up
no sense of fashion/style
clingy
too passive in bed
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia

[*]Buddha bellies

[/list=1]

D@mn, that's a 'shortlist?' :p
Haha! Never heard of the one before.

Here's my list:


1. Too fat, and not doing anything to lose it.

2. Bad hygiene.

3. Pubic hair all the way down to their thighs.

4. Girls who don't put effort in washing their snatch before sex. A quick perineal wash wont kill 'em, WTF!

5. Trannies.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by Don Ronny
I cant stand when a woman uses inferior software and poses as a man on a dating forum. *looks at Francisco...or should I say Francisca*
Don, you're really a sad, angry and jealous SOB. If you must waste your time following me around trying to hijak threads, go right ahead. Show everyone just what kind of DJ you really are...
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Don, you're really a sad, angry and jealous SOB. If you must waste your time following me around trying to hijak threads, go right ahead. Show everyone just what kind of DJ you really are...
Awww nuts! And I was trying SO hard to impress this forum!:(
 

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Re: Re: Let's get superficial (shallow), what can't you stand about a woman?

Originally posted by smooth666
WTF is this???
Kankles are where a woman's calves go straight from her knees into her ankes without curving in. When the calf has so much fat on it that it blends with the ankle forming a kankle.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Let's get superficial (shallow), what can't you stand about a woman?

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Kankles are where a woman's calves go straight from her knees into her ankes without curving in. When the calf has so much fat on it that it blends with the ankle forming a kankle.
LMFAO!!!!
This is a piece of $hit!
I guess there are "words" for everything.... :p

Yeah, I never tought about it,because women with "kankles" are most likely soooo fat that their fat a$$es keep me from looking any closer at them.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Let's get superficial (shallow), what can't you stand about a woman?

Originally posted by smooth666
LMFAO!!!!
This is a piece of $hit!
I guess there are "words" for everything.... :p

Yeah, I never tought about it,because women with "kankles" are most likely soooo fat that their fat a$$es keep me from looking any closer at them.
I had thought it was only obese women who got them but it's not true. I've noticed them a lot on women that may only be 10 or 20 pounds overweight. However these women seem to only wear flip-flops or some other shoe that doesn't have a heel.

I think that opting for the comfort of those types of shoes and not being very active causes kankles. Although shoes with heels may not be the most comfortable to women, have you ever really noticed kankles on women that regularly wore heels? I would think that wearing heels would work those calf muscles.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Let's get superficial (shallow), what can't you stand about a wom

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Although shoes with heels may not be the most comfortable to women, have you ever really noticed kankles on women that regularly wore heels? I would think that wearing heels would work those calf muscles.
It's the opposite. Impossible to load your calves in high heels.
 

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I always thought the term was "THANKLES"

(Thighs hangin around your ankles!)

GOd, where is a good puke emoticon when you need it?
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Let's get superficial (shallow), what can't you stand about a wom

Originally posted by Ice Cold
It's the opposite. Impossible to load your calves in high heels.
Really? I've seen fit women (actually athletes, mostly cyclist) whose calves seem extra defined while in heels, as if they are perpetually flexed. All I know is that little angular cut at the bottom of their calves are sexy ass hell...
 

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what is your problem?

Originally posted by Don Ronny
I always thought the term was "THANKLES"

(Thighs hangin around your ankles!)

GOd, where is a good puke emoticon when you need it?
Don Ronny: wtf is your problem? all i see you do on these forums is tune, mock, and try to find fault with everyone.... :mad: Thats NOT what these forums are about...

If you have nothing helpfull to say, then

DONT SAY IT!!

Now go do yourself a favour, and ALL of us a favour, and take your sexual frustration out ELSEWHERE!:mad:

Laterz...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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