Rocko
Senior Don Juan
well, i have read both sides to the arguement and i just wanted to know which is the correct one. By loosing to the girl, you are giving her more power over you, but by winning, aren't you crushing her / being a show-off?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Let the girl beat you?
- Thread starter Rocko
- Start date
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
WC2
Master Don Juan
Beat you at what? I mean I guess it depends, but in most cases girls want a guy to beat them. They want a superior guy. Once in awhile it's nice to let a girl win, but make sure she knows that you let her win.
Docs
Banned
In agreeance with WC2, it depends on what you are doing.
And not always tell her you let her won, it makes her feel good to do something honest, it's not always worthwhile to ruin it for her.
And not always tell her you let her won, it makes her feel good to do something honest, it's not always worthwhile to ruin it for her.
Rocko
Senior Don Juan
gotcha, thanks
American_Psycho
Don Juan
I'm assuming you're talking about some kind of physical activity in which you would generally be superior to a girl.
You shouldn't be giving 110% effort like it's the NBA finals or something, but you shouldn't just let her win either. Play down to her level so it's relaxed but competitive. Give her a chance to win but make her work for it.
You shouldn't be giving 110% effort like it's the NBA finals or something, but you shouldn't just let her win either. Play down to her level so it's relaxed but competitive. Give her a chance to win but make her work for it.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Skilla_Staz
Master Don Juan
Arguements. If you are right, you do not back down.
If you are wrong, comprimise. If she makes a valid arguement, just say "I guess you got a point there. I say we leave it at that, and stop arguing. I'm a lover not a fighter babe.
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If you are wrong, comprimise. If she makes a valid arguement, just say "I guess you got a point there. I say we leave it at that, and stop arguing. I'm a lover not a fighter babe.
"wavejams007
Master Don Juan
dittoAmerican_Psycho said: