"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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let my gf go with another guy to buy her clothes. bad idea?

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Only a hor would consider such a proposal!! And an AFC would make a hor like this his "hor/friend"

He is pounding this hor right now in the new G-string he bought her!!!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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That's right, he was planning on taking her to buy some lingerie. Alternatively, some low cut outfits. When she tries them on he will check them out to see if they look nice, or are too tight.
 

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Raikojo17 said:
so my gf's ex bf(of about 5 years ago) is tryin to get back with her. little does he know that she already got a bf (me). he offered to take her to the mall and buy her clothes so that she might change her mind about him. she really doesnt like him and wants nothing to do with him, but the free clothes is too tempting. to her suprise i really had no problem with her going with him to buy clothes, she could use some new ones. who wouldnt take free stuff right. she says after this she wont talk to him anymore cuz she feels bad because she goin with another guy.

I dont have a problem with her goin, i just told her not to do anything with him. she says she doesnt even want to hug him, but she knows he'll go for it. this guys a major AFC whom she states is a horrible bf, that's why she broke up with him.
do you guys think this was a good move on my part?
My Honest Opinion. HORRIBLE decision. Why? because why the hell would she want to go out with her Ex again? dude, this is the guy that pounded her before you. If shes your G/F, she has no Business with him.
 
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ElChoclo said:
That's right, he was planning on taking her to buy some lingerie. Alternatively, some low cut outfits. When she tries them on he will check them out to see if they look nice, or are too tight.
Yeah, these hors know this!!! dude says, "Try it on" "Stick your ass out" "Yeah that looks good on you"....all the while the hor is frolicking about in jubilation that he is lusting after her and she will soon have a new hor-fit!!!
 

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why do they always blame the other guy?

the problem is not the ex- the problem is the girl!

You should not have to say 'no'!

The fact you do means this is a rocky road and at the end i see a great big pit fall!

Maybe not with the Ex- but this women is showing a sure sign of not the type to get deeply involved with.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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jonwon said:
why do they always blame the other guy?

the problem is not the ex- the problem is the girl!
:yes:
 

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Reading the first 2 paragraphs of your 3rd post I thought fair enough, but then I read this.

Raikojo17 said:
we decided she shouldnt tell him because if he knew she wouldnt get anything from him,lol.
I the first 2 days she's shown she deceitful for her own benefit. LOL... if there ever was a red flag, this is it.
 

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"I know that you'll make the right and just decision for everyone."

You don't come off as telling her what to do but you do pretty much tell her what you want and expect. And if she doesn't respect that or see the integrity in such words then just dump her. Show her you're no fool.

Yeah i know it's a bit pu55y footing around but nowadays even though it's right you usually can't get away with "no you're not going" or they throw up the "you're insecure!!" bullsh1t when it has nothing to do with you being insecure... rather about what's the right thing to do. And besides it's a man test on her to see if she's going to take advantage of a sucker because if she does it to him you know she'll be willing to do it to you. But i guess none of that really matters since you're only 18 and really shouldn't be doing anything but fvcking her regardless of her morals anyway.

She probably just wants to see how you react. She could already know she has zero plans on actually going for all you know.
 
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jonwon said:
why do they always blame the other guy?

the problem is not the ex- the problem is the girl!

You should not have to say 'no'!

The fact you do means this is a rocky road and at the end i see a great big pit fall!

Maybe not with the Ex- but this women is showing a sure sign of not the type to get deeply involved with.
Yes, this is the point - why would she even consider such a proposal in the first place? Why tell her pimp? To make him jealous? Have him bu her clothes?

Don't trust her kid!!!
 

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i mean come on guys.. Free fvcking clothes.. i would think about it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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backbreaker said:
i mean come on guys.. Free fvcking clothes.. i would think about it.
The point is they will not be free - this will open the door for him to contact her again and again and again and make her feel obligated!!
 

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like he isn't anyway
Yes another point put across, the GF is clearly in touch with the ex who is stating a sure sign of sexual interest in the girl, well she may as well get some clothes out of it, since the guy (OP) does not seem to mind that his GF is thinking of entertaining some Ex-Fuc* to the point of letting him buy her cloths or spend the day with here.

Not a problem if he was not interested in her as a sexual partner but i think we have already established he has sexual interest in her. Out of respect the girl should not even be entertaining the guy past the first email, the point to me would not be 'shopping for cloths' the point for me would be 'why the hell did it get to this stage'? so in that she may as well go since the OP is more concerned about the Ex then he is about what this women is doing.

As for a test to see how he would react, well i hate tests, there a sure sign of head games and regardless of the outcome, if he accepts it can be a sure sign of him being confident yes but also he shows he is willing to put up with a lack of respect in the form of his women entertaining guys who want more then friendship regardless of the context of it.

Wven if this is a test to me that is even worse, if i had a women who felt the need to push those buttons, that drama i could really do without! I would prefer my women to state 'my Ex tried to contact me the other day, i deleted his number and told him i am happy seeing some-one else'.

But.

They are young so relationships at this age we know dont work out anyway 98% still i know when i was that age i had my first heart break over a women who fuc*ed me about and the first time can hit like a mother fuc*er.

he just needs to protect himself and on what he has found out, not get too deeply involved in this chick, easier said then done esp' from the denial from the OP.
 

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this tells you a lot about your girlfriends character. do u want a girl who USES people? what she is doing is horrible. if i were you i'd break away.

plus thats bull****. never let a girl go wth her X BF.
 
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