“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Tried to set up a date and the conversation went something like this:

Me: Free this weekend?
Hb8: Ermmm what you wanna do?
Me: A drink or two, see where the night takes us. :)
Hb8: hahaha sure sure why not.
Hb8: Are you a frequent drinker?
Me: Casual. Sat xxx pm?
Hb8: haha sure sure.
Hb8: But where you wanna meet?
Me: I know this place which serves good wine. xxxx.
<radio silence>

Options I'm comtemplating:
1. Day of date I shoot her a message "Don't forget to wear something cute, name"
2. Take it the date didn't get set up and let it blow over.

What do yoy guys think?
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Hell, once I had a HB9 wait 6 days to reply with an "I don't know how i'm looking for time tomorrow". I didn't respond; by that point, I had set up something else. My advice is that the OP do the same.

She now considers you an option for her weekend. She will get back to you - unless she finds something better to do. She will string it out until then. Please don't send the first message; it's redundant, and you will come across as a mark. Play the same game as she; try and create more options. Never let her realize that she is your only option either: she will view you as very low value.

Do not send another text,
and take this as an IOD.

How old is the girl? I find it's usually young, immature women that play this game.
She's 21
 

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Hell, once I had a HB9 wait 6 days to reply with an "I don't know how i'm looking for time tomorrow". I didn't respond; by that point, I had set up something else. My advice is that the OP do the same.

She now considers you an option for her weekend. She will get back to you - unless she finds something better to do. She will string it out until then. Please don't send the first message; it's redundant, and you will come across as a mark. Play the same game as she; try and create more options. Never let her realize that she is your only option either: she will view you as very low value.

Do not send another text,
and take this as an IOD.

How old is the girl? I find it's usually young, immature women that play this game.
THIS. Follow the advice above.

And To emphasize the point, if she contacts you later saying yes to the date, ignore her. She lost her window with you and a man with options will not bend over backward for a chick playing games.
 

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Well I hate playing games, so a part of me wants to drop her completely. However, I think in my current situation I have to play along (not jumping through hoops but playing games as well) if I want to get any hot ass. Simply put a more muscular dude will always beat me hands down in terms of looks at the moment.
 

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Tried to set up a date and the conversation went something like this:

Me: Free this weekend?
Hb8: Ermmm what you wanna do?
Me: A drink or two, see where the night takes us. :)
Hb8: hahaha sure sure why not.
Hb8: Are you a frequent drinker?
Me: Casual. Sat xxx pm?
Hb8: haha sure sure.
Hb8: But where you wanna meet?
Me: I know this place which serves good wine. xxxx.
<radio silence>

Options I'm comtemplating:
1. Day of date I shoot her a message "Don't forget to wear something cute, name"
2. Take it the date didn't get set up and let it blow over.

What do yoy guys think?
And yet another f*cking example of you guys need to speak to these hoes on the phone. If you get a b*tch on the phone, she can't these little hoes by not replying. If she was on the phone, you would had a definite answer. Instead what you have a message laden in ambiguity. Also, you didn't hit her up with definite plans. You need a game plan with these chicks.

Options I'm comtemplating:
1. Day of date I shoot her a message "Don't forget to wear something cute, name"
2. Take it the date didn't get set up and let it blow over.

What do yoy guys think?
Number 2 because you have to take her lack as an answer as her answer. I forgot who said on here, but a member of forum said that a chick who likes won't confuse you. Rex says that you only give a chick one chance to reject you. As as deesade snd SmooveMooves said this broad needs to punished for her bad and disrespectful behavior. If she does contact you, you CALL and say, "You didn't confirm for Saturday, so I'm going out with somebody else." Then watch her ego deflated faster than Tom Brady footballs. These women need to know that you always h
 

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She just texted me

HB8: Oh so you like to drink wine?? Anyway, afternoon!
 

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Ignore the "Anyway, afternoon!" and continue the conversation
My gut feeling tells me this is an AW. Turn the conversation back to the date?
 

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You're one of the dudes that I was talking in this thread, If Your on So Suave Then Why Don't You Listen, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index....then-why-dont-you-listen.230097/#post-2295612. This is a sh*t test my friend and you're about to fail it. You hit her up you posted this message at 9:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, and she doesn't hit you back until damn near seven hours later, and you're still entertaining the the thought of going out with this broad? Bruh, what the f*ck is wrong with you? You need to check broad and let her know that you're somebody that demands respect. Again, you do what I suggested in Post 9 of this thread, which is

Number 2 because you have to take her lack as an answer as her answer. I forgot who said on here, but a member of forum said that a chick who likes won't confuse you. Rex says that you only give a chick one chance to reject you. As as deesade snd SmooveMooves said this broad needs to punished for her bad and disrespectful behavior. If she does contact you, you CALL and say, "You didn't confirm for Saturday, so I'm going out with somebody else." Then watch her ego deflated faster than Tom Brady footballs. These women need to know that you always have options.

You also claimed that she's an 8, you should post a picture of this 8.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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let's make something clear:

if she was into you, she would not be playing games, and she would not take 7 hours to reply. She took that long cause she doesnt care about you so she finds entertaining to toy with you. If she had any interest she would not be playing with you.

Now that you know that she is not into you, in other words, she doesnt find you attractive, why do you want to waste your time with her exactly...?
 

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You need to put a bit more teasing and humour into your messages. Her interest is still there, but it's not exactly sky high. You need to convey the idea that you're fun as hell and she'd be missing out if she turned down a date with you. Raise her IL (even if only temporary) and then set the date. This is how your conversation should basically go:

Me: Free this weekend?
Hb8: Ermmm what you wanna do?
Me: A drink or two, see where the night takes us. :)
Hb8: hahaha sure sure why not.
Hb8: Are you a frequent drinker?
Me: Casual. Sat xxx pm?
Hb8: haha sure sure.
Hb8: But where you wanna meet?
Me: I know this place which serves good wine. xxxx.
HB8: Oh so you like to drink wine?? Anyway, afternoon!
Me: Wine is great, but I know my limits. I hope you're a good girl and know your limits too ;)
HB8: Oh don't worry, I know my limits!
Me: I hope so! I don't need to be carrying a passed out woman back to my car and leaving her on her own doorstep ;)
HB8: LOL
Me: Good! Meet me there at 8:00 on Saturday
 

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Stop all the BS texting.

Send one more that says, "I have to go... I'll see you at xxx at xxpm, til then"

Then assume she will show up. If she flakes on stands you up, then she has low interest and you need not waste too much time with her.
 

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1) stop using smilies. Women and gay guys do that, not men.

2) Saying "free this weekend" makes it look like you are a loser with nothing else going on because you have the whole weekend to offer her. The question you ask is "What's your schedule looking like this week?" Or "What nights are you free this week?" Then you choose a night she gives you. Simple.

3) We have no context here...when did this convo start? Was it late at night where she may have went to sleep? During the day? Normally I'd agree this is a sign of disinterest, but not always. Sometimes people do things like work or sleep where they can't answer texts(depending on where they work). However her "sure why not"="I have nothing better to do that night yet, so I'll let you buy me a drink"...definitely not the response I want to see from a woman.

4) "I'll see you at xxxx at 9pm." Is the only text that should be sent in response. Stop letting her play games with you.
 

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Don't shift her attention back to the date, it's basically a **** test as someone else pointed out. She waited too long and you have other stuff on your mind now. Right?

Respond minimally to her last message,
HB8: Oh so you like to drink wine?? Anyway, afternoon!
Me: Ya you don't?

As Des said, in terms of the date the ball is still in her court. Don't plan on going unless she brings it up in a timely manner beforehand. If she brings it up at the last second, then decline. "Oh I didn't think you were down actually, I'm not really available at the moment"
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Don't shift her attention back to the date, it's basically a **** test as someone else pointed out. She waited too long and you have other stuff on your mind now. Right?

Respond minimally to her last message,
HB8: Oh so you like to drink wine?? Anyway, afternoon!
Me: Ya you don't?

As Des said, in terms of the date the ball is still in her court. Don't plan on going unless she brings it up in a timely manner beforehand. If she brings it up at the last second, then decline. "Oh I didn't think you were down actually, I'm not really available at the moment"
The whole point is, if the woman is pulling this nonsense it's pretty clear her interest isn't at the level it needs to be. Waste of time, imho.
 

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Me: Free this weekend?
Hb8: Ermmm what you wanna do?
You: Ermmm, that wasn't an answer to the question

From the moment She typed Ermmm she was trying to qualify you, make you an option of many. If she's free she needs to say so. She doesn't get to know the plan until she agrees to be available.
 

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Rookies... :rolleyes:

You dont ask for a date. You say hey, Friday night im gonna watch this band play or Tuesday im gonna go target shooting, you should join me.

You dont ask for permission or what ther doing. Tell her like it is and if she is really interested she will follow where ever you go! That is one way of rooting out the un-interested girls and protecting your heart!

Good Luck.
 

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She went ghost after I sent the last message until today where we're supposed to meet:

HB8: Hey are we still on for tonight? Sorry for the late reply, I'm so forgetful when it comes to replying.
Me: Well you didn't confirm for tonight, so I made other plans beforehand.
HB8: Hehehe ok enjoy your night then!

Time to move on.
 

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She went ghost after I sent the last message until today where we're supposed to meet:

HB8: Hey are we still on for tonight? Sorry for the late reply, I'm so forgetful when it comes to replying.
Me: Well you didn't confirm for tonight, so I made other plans beforehand.
HB8: Hehehe ok enjoy your night then!

Time to move on.
Was this a first date? If it was, I'll be going against the grain and say that you missed out. Strike while the iron is hot (or even luke-warm) because it's much easier to raise and maintain IL in person than it is over text messaging.

You CANNOT teach a woman lessons if she's not already invested in you. What did she gain? The continued freedom to choose another guy who will strike when the iron is hot. What did you gain? Another continued string of intimate nights with your hand.

I cannot count how many times I've been able to turn a luke-warm chick into one who's totally obsessed with me simply by sacrificing the typical "rules" that are preached on this site, especially when I'm dating somebody new. If this chick was pulling this kind of garbage in the second month, then I'd agree that getting rid of her was in your best interest. But in the beginning, this chick knows little to nothing about you and is going to be naturally intimidated by dating a new guy. You need to take her out, elevate, and break the physical and sexual barriers which will only make her more excited to see you.

You cannot be at the top of a woman's world when you're starting at the bottom, so quit acting like you're at the top.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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