"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Learning...but need to get my balls back

Tantric

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Okay…I’ll keep this one short.

Everything is game over with this one girl I work with...

There was an attraction there, but she found out I liked her, created a big distance, and as I result, I ended up turning into a needy, calling, wussy.

When I realized how I was acting, I stopped the calls, and when I saw her at work, I remained aloof...but it was too late.

That was 4 months ago, and I went on vacation. I hadn't seen her since.

A couple of weeks ago, we started working with each other again. I was my normal c/f self, lots of laughter from her, everything is cool. When she was talking to me the other day, she was leaning against the wall, playing with her hair, and her pelvis ******d...which I took as receptivity.

I found out from a friend yesterday (co-worker) that she is uncomfortable around me because she knows I am still attracted to her.

I guess that caught me a wee bit offguard as I never sensed that from her physically.

So now, I'm finding myself watching what I say, how I say it, and I feel like a retard around her.

I don't call her, I don't attempt to socialize with her...all the communication is work related. I let her call me. Those are the only things i can think of doing so i can feel better (in control).

Even though I think the attraction was there way back, I think I killed it completely the way I acted. I am leaving my job in November, so I have some time here...I basically want her to look at me as a man...not some stupid kid who has a crush on her.

Any way to salvage this?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Nothing romantic is ever going to happen with this woman so stop stressing about it. Use her for practice on the next great woman to come along.

You are too worried about what she thinks about you. You only worry about someone when you are interested in them for good or bad. When you lose that ... then she will look at you differently.
 

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Find another girl. Then you'll stop obssessing over this one. And then, ironically, she may be attracted to you again.
 

Tantric

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Originally posted by transporter
Find another girl. Then you'll stop obssessing over this one. And then, ironically, she may be attracted to you again.
Ha! Isn't that always the way!
 
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