Sergio
Don Juan
Five stars from me.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
This part is worth emphasising.Originally posted by seloifter
What did you ever get in return for being overly helpful to a girl? A smile? A hug? And how *excited* were you to get it? Pretty damn happy, right?
USE THIS! Make women do things for YOU! Ask THEM to go pick something up from McDonald's for you, make THEM carry your ****. ---Just remember not to do this unless you've already created at least SOME interest beforehand, otherwise they'll just get irritated with you and think you're a lazy jerk ---. And when they're done serving you, reward them with some tiny insignificant thing, and see how much they appreciate it!
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Women will like doing favors for you because people need to be needed.I used to think that doing favours for people earned you big points. I'm sure that back in your AFC days you did, too.
Fact is, the opposite is true. Getting someone to do favours for you is the best way to establish a permanent pattern (and a good way to keep a woman interested).
I'm sure there's a theory out there that makes some sort of sense... whether it's a case of her rationalising her own behaviour or of submissive behaviour being a turn-off or whatever. The important part is that I've had consistently good results getting girls to do favours for me, and I've had consistently bad results when I've done favours for them.
And when you think about it, that's really not a bad deal at all.
Undoubtedly true, as a principle of general human interaction.Originally posted by Acrylonitrile
Women will like doing favors for you because people need to be needed.
Women will not like you doing favors for them because people do not like to feel needy.
It so happens that I can think of plenty of other ways to demonstrate value (that is, "that you have something to offer"). After a quick glance through the archives, some of them will suggest themselves to you.
I believe that the appropriate way to handle things is to create an effective balance between the asking and giving of favors. Asking for excessive favors makes one a burden--giving excessive favors makes the recipient feel needy. Therefore it is important to both give and receive -- by receiving you let a woman know she is needed, and by giving you let her know that you have something to offer in return.
Well, of course you're not. I am. You shouldn't let that stop you from trying, though!
Acrylonitrile
I am NOT
The Main Event.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I agree. Thinking a girl is interested in me has always tended to make me interested or more interested in them. But now that I am no longer AFC, I know it is my role as a man to lead. And when I'm interested in a girl who acts into me NOW, I go for the # close.Originally posted by seloifter
-"I think she likes me!!" Remember thinking that? When a girl, in whom you had NO interest in whatsoever, started to show interest, suddenly your mind burst with wonder. Just because you THOUGTH SHE LIKED YOU, YOU STARTED TO LIKE HER!
I have had this happen to me countless times. About 95% of the girls that I had crushes on, I only had crushes on them because I thought they had crushes on me in the first place! However, the most important thing is that I THOUGHT they had crushes on me. I wasn't SURE. And this drove me crazy. I was suddenly incredibly interested in her, and tried my hardest to make her like me. Already I was her puppet.
USE THIS! Make women think "He's interested in me!" and then make them think twice "or is he....?" by the time they're wondering "or is he?", they've already started to be interested in you. However, this interest will fade the MOMENT that they are CERTAIN you are interested in them -- unless you play your cards right. Timing is everything, mistery is even more.
It's a huge hint, but there's still an element of self-imposed doubt. I can tell you that as someone who's spoken to his female friends on this very topic.Originally posted by Ofus
Wouldn't you say that a girl knows for certain you are interested, once you get her #?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.