"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Learn from Multiple Sources or Just One at a Time?

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I'm a huge believer in game. If it wasn't for game resources, I would still be a virgin guaranteed.

In Roosh V's "Game," my favorite game book right now, he says that you should study one game resource at a time to avoid getting confused.

Do you all agree with that? Or should I learn a bit from everyone like RSD Julien, YaReally, etc and create my own custom game? Sometimes I end up picking up little bits and pieces from others.

Sosuave opinions take precedence cause this site saved me from my depressive spiral. What do you all think? One resource at a time or learn from everyone and create a custom game, mastering as much as I can until it's as natural as breathing?
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Confusion gets lost when you apply what you read and apply it consistently.
 

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There's a lot of conflicting advice from guru out there. Studying multiple sources at once will just confuse you.
The best way for a beginner is to start out with one source that you like most.
Then slowly build on it with other sources.
 

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There's a lot of conflicting advice from guru out there. Studying multiple sources at once will just confuse you.
The best way for a beginner is to start out with one source that you like most.
Then slowly build on it with other sources.
Yeah I agree. I use SS as a base and Roosh for practicality. Maybe I'll switch to RSD Julien after I do a few rounds of the Roosh program.

I still watch AMS videos. Not really to study his game, but because he tells me to get on my purpose and his video about confidence is the best thing ever.
 

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This is the internet, trust no one! Grab your balls, go out, go wild and discover the truth. There is no better source than yourself, don't take my word for it.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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There's a lot of conflicting advice from guru out there. Studying multiple sources at once will just confuse you.
The best way for a beginner is to start out with one source that you like most.
Then slowly build on it with other sources.
True. My first 2 'game' books I read were the mysterymethod and then 'models' by Mark Manson!! Can you imagine how confused and lost I was after that!? In no other field do 'pros' disagree on so much. Literally every single thing lol. Made you kind of realise that there kind of isn't really a 'game' at all. ''A game without rules isn't a game''!. There's nothing to learn'. I began to CRINGE when I'd read someone say ''Just learn game,bro!!''

It was kind of confirmed when I discovered infields of various people - how everyone was doing everything so different (because everyone has different personalities for one) but all getting the same results

Which kind of leads me to this:

This is the internet, trust no one! Grab your balls, go out, go wild and discover the truth. There is no better source than yourself, don't take my word for it.
Yep. I think we all have to be our own guru. Different things will work for different people depending on things like how handsome you are, your age, where you live, what sort of girls you are hitting on etc etc.
 

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Do that but still you need something to guide you and point you in the right direction.
Otherwise, you're wandering in the desert and lost.
Someone had to be first, nobody guided them other than their natural instincts. Taking conflicting advice on the internet is just about as useful as figuring it out for oneself. Without the experience you wouldn't know what is good or bad advice, if you have the experience to make that judgement then you wouldn't need the advice anyways.

Someone wandering in the desert might by nothing other than the use of their own senses figure out that following the stars prevents them from going in circles. Increasing their chances of finding the end of the desert. No instructions given.
 

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True. My first 2 'game' books I read were the mysterymethod and then 'models' by Mark Manson!! Can you imagine how confused and lost I was after that!? In no other field do 'pros' disagree on so much. Literally every single thing lol. Made you kind of realise that there kind of isn't really a 'game' at all. ''A game without rules isn't a game''!. There's nothing to learn'. I began to CRINGE when I'd read someone say ''Just learn game,bro!!''

It was kind of confirmed when I discovered infields of various people - how everyone was doing everything so different (because everyone has different personalities for one) but all getting the same results

Which kind of leads me to this:



Yep. I think we all have to be our own guru. Different things will work for different people depending on things like how handsome you are, your age, where you live, what sort of girls you are hitting on etc etc.
Yeah you have to try things and see what works for you, just one at a time so you don't get confused. I've read both of those. I like Models by Mark Manson but a lot of it comes off as an inner game type thing to me.

There's more than one way to skin a cat though, right?

I really like Roosh and RSD Julien
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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