"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Here are some pics, to show you the difference.

It's alot better now than it was before, but still annoying... And these pictures hardly do justice to it's size... especially looking down at it :).

Tensed

Relaxed

Pushed out


Hope this helps...
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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To me it looks like the muscles holding in your gut are weak.

You can strengthen those muscles by sucking your stomach in, ala the link in wolf116's post.

Its a common problem especially with older men and Im pretty certain that this is the reason your gut sticks out.
 

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My lower gut sticks out and i'm 9-10% bf. I started doing ab vacuums about 2 weeks ago and from the very start i could do 4 sets of 2 minutes with 1 minute breaks (could go on longer...) and since everywhere i see always has you starting at like 10 or 30 seconds at a time i feel i'm already well ahead of the game so i don't have much faith in it making much of a difference.
 

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The side abs hold your gut on its place... you need to pay attention to them. Front abs don't hold gut.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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mrRuckus said:
My lower gut sticks out and i'm 9-10% bf. I started doing ab vacuums about 2 weeks ago and from the very start i could do 4 sets of 2 minutes with 1 minute breaks (could go on longer...) and since everywhere i see always has you starting at like 10 or 30 seconds at a time i feel i'm already well ahead of the game so i don't have much faith in it making much of a difference.
Ab vacuums? What kind of exercise is this?
 

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Side abs? The transverse abdominus holds your gut in. I guess that kind of counts as side abs, but it's beneath the visible abs.

Ab vacuums are just like the link already posted. Suck in your gut as far as you can and hold it. I'm actually kind of thinking up a way to add weight to doing this. Haha, get a navel piercing and pull a string tied to something... I guess getting on your hands and knees and pulling your gut upwards adds gravity resistance.

Look it up on youtube. There's some crazy videos of what guys can do when they learn to control those muscles and get them strong.
 

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Try doing sprints. My abdominal section always looks best when sprints are in my routine. I don't think I've ever seem a male or female sprinter with the round gut either. I'm not sure if it'll fix your problem but it couldn't hurt.
 

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Like I said earlier, it may not be fat. It could be an intestinal problem.
 

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Quiksilver said:
Here are some pics, to show you the difference.

It's alot better now than it was before, but still annoying... And these pictures hardly do justice to it's size... especially looking down at it :).

Tensed

Relaxed

Pushed out

Hope this helps...

Several things that you can do Quagmire.

*) Strength those abs. They need to be stronger. I'll only give you one exercise: Turkish Get Ups. Do them. Go heavy. You'll feel it. Turkish Get Ups will tear your core apart.

*) I think you drink a lot of alcohol/beer. Test without it.

*) You don't seem to have a protruding butt (lordosis symptoms) & I assume your diet is right.


Btw, I share Espi's opinion. Bodybuilding is narcistic thus impairs confidence. You don't need to nickpick on every detail of your body. Strengthen those abs, but don't try to be like in the magazines. Be you.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Thanks a heap guys, lots of good info flowin in now.

I read that inter-abdominal muscle article and will try that exercise for a couple months, and post a pic at the end.


to spes: sprints are bruuutal man. I had them in my routine for many months. They were the catalyst in my fat loss from being chubby. They do work the abs a bit true, because you have to forcefully pull your legs up mid run, sort of like hanging knee raises.

So far have just been doing situps and crunches for abs, but ill try some more advanced techniques now.

to Espi: yeah man I know how it works with those model dudes... The thing is, I've asked many people and it just seems very few people have to consciously keep their abs tensed. Even if I am just obsessing over details, the results can only be good if it causes me to strengthen my abs further.

stronglifts: Before I got into exercising, even when I was playing sports at state level, I could barely do one full situp. You are probably right about my weak abs. I however rarely drink alcohol. Even when I drank the most, two years ago, it was still only once per week. Haven't "drank" in over three months now :(.

I wonder how EFFORT is going to respond to me doing way more ab work than is on the program...

again, thanks guys. Hopefully if I ever get this fixed someone will come along with the same issue and know what to do because of this.

Haha, love the turkish getups video.. I think I'll do those at home. I'd get beat up for doing those at the gym I go to.
 

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From those pix you don't look extremely lean - so it could still be vestigial fat.

Generally, you lose fat last from your face and belly...so that spare tire reserve might not get tapped until you have steadily been cutting for a month.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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wayword said:
From those pix you don't look extremely lean - so it could still be vestigial fat.

Generally, you lose fat last from your face and belly...so that spare tire reserve might not get tapped until you have steadily been cutting for a month.
I sort of have the same issue, and it's not fat. I still have a little bit of fat around my belly, but it definitely has nothing to do with the way my stomach sticks out. It's definitely more of an 'internal' thing.
 

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Master Bates said:
I sort of have the same issue, and it's not fat. I still have a little bit of fat around my belly, but it definitely has nothing to do with the way my stomach sticks out. It's definitely more of an 'internal' thing.
Possibly - but remember a lot of fat is interstitial - in other words, not just under your skin where you can easily see or feel it. But this internal fat will still push your belly out.
 

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Master Bates said:
Thanks, that looks like a great core exercise to add to my regimen. What day should I do this on though? Abs day?

Also, what about # of reps/sets?
Do them & you'll see that it's not an ab exercise. It's a full body exercise. Turkish get up will teach you to tighten everything. Strong grip to hold the weight, locked triceps to keep arm straight, shoulder girdle, back, legs to squat/lunge up & down & of course the lower back/abs to hold you upright.

Granted lots of muscles will be used to more weight (especiall back & legs), but you'll feel it everywhere.

Do 5 sets of 5 reps or so. Most important: go heavy. The point is not to flex your abs or whatever. The point is to lay down & get up. Go heavy.
 

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Well I've been doing stomach vacuums at least five times a week the past month and I don't think it's done a goddamn thing. ugh, it's so frustrating. the way your stomach looks really is like the main visual indicator of how fit you are, and mine makes me look like I sit on the couch all day eating doritos. pisses me off.
 

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You're prolly 13-16% bodyfat still. Razor-sharp definition of abs don't appear until you reach the magic, "single-digits". When Mark Wahlberg modeled Calvin Klein boxer briefs, in 1990- he was a ripped 3% bodyfat. And, he HATES ab exercises! But he eats low carbs at least six times a day. That's key. A volcanic metabolism will fry fat right offa you in no time......
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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