"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Lady blowing hot then suddenly cold

Jeffst1980

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I'll add that trying to go "sexual" over email or online chat is a big mistake if you haven't met. Girls will do this online because it is "safe," but once you start pushing to meet in person it will all go to hell. There's just too much pressure and awkwardness involved in having to meet someone under those pretenses.

Best thing to do when a women starts dirty talk that early is to de-escalate- "whoa there...I don't even know you...at least buy me a drink first!"

This story is very common. Also, you really shouldn't send more messages after she's agreed to meet you- that can only screw up your chances.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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great advice there guys, which I've taken on board now...I Plan on deleting her texts and photos, she was clearly just a user. I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt, ie phone not working, but I've seen her online etc. I mean if she can't spare 2 minutes to drop me a message, why should I spend days fretting over it.. Thanks again my fellow DJs, you gave me the kick in the pants I needed!
 

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saab1981 said:
She has said how much I 'rock her world' ..
I would have been turned off if a grown woman used such a tedious and irritating cliche.
 

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these DJ's are right. NC until she contacts you. and then it's YOUR turn to be aloof & "busy"....
that is IF you want to continue toying with her at all
 

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Bit of an update guys: She got back to me on monday night. She has explained a lot about her situation. Bottom line is this - shes in a relationship of a few years, and things with her fella over the last year or so have been stale. Her guy was a miserable ass apparently, always complaining, being a jerk, whereas she's quite fun, educated and articulate with a good job - not your average young, vain chick. When we first got in touch, she was looking to go down the 'no strings' route, as was I too.

Alas, she appears to have had a massive change of heart at some point- her and her fella had a major row last week, and she gave him an ultimatium, whereby he had to cheer up about things, and stop being a critical jerk, or she'd leave him. Since then apparently, he has managed to keep this up, and she 'can't fault him' (I personally guarantee he'll end up back in his own, jerk ways eventually)

She says I'm a sweet guy and makes her laugh, and she enjoyed our messaging, but now has guilty feelings over what we were doing, and has basically told me she's very 'confused' right now, not to mention having a tough time at work, with her parents and with this guy.

Do you think it's worth leaving the door open to her, and spinning some more plates?
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Falcon25 said:
There is one answer to this; As this happened to me with a young girl this week.

When a woman goes suddenly cold on you, there is only one explanation;

Another man.

The other guy came back and stepped up his game. He was always there. They always are. Cause god forbid a woman can't be alone. It's another guy. Don't worry about it.
Remember what I told you???
 
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