"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Ladder theory
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Kwah
Master Don Juan
Can anyone else not go to that site cause its censored?
DrMetallica
Master Don Juan
They are just pissed-off AFC's
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Evil-Rom
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I remember reading that before I came to this site.
Though it was total BS.
I think otherwise now.
Though it was total BS.
I think otherwise now.
CableLight
Master Don Juan
I just read this off of a link from College Humor
http://www.intellectual*****s.com/masterladder.html
(the part that is probably going to be cencored by the filter is wh0res...as in intellectualwh0res with the 0 being replaced by an o)
If you haven't read it, I'd suggest doing so. It's pretty F'in great.
<EDIT> DONT click the link, it wont work because the filter replaces the word wh0re with *****. Just type it in your browser manually.
http://www.intellectual*****s.com/masterladder.html
(the part that is probably going to be cencored by the filter is wh0res...as in intellectualwh0res with the 0 being replaced by an o)
If you haven't read it, I'd suggest doing so. It's pretty F'in great.
<EDIT> DONT click the link, it wont work because the filter replaces the word wh0re with *****. Just type it in your browser manually.
check_mate_kid_uk
Master Don Juan
wow this stuff is more or less dead on, i think the link should be the DJ bible but in advanced section or somthing.
One thing to remmber when it says 50% or her liking you is money/power you get so worried aobut the money side of it because you have been told here it is not money and now osmeone says it is, thta you forget aobut the power, sure money is power but so is bieng an alpha male and having confidence! and that maes up that 50%!
but i think if you go on to the forum its a waste of time as its only about the ladder so they do not know the whole game
P.S if you ever visit there site never will you call sosuave a troll, there are people with 17,000 posts and heres what i heared form some one.
"How about 900 in less than a month? (hooray for OT, which Im sure is what made my post count so high so fast) "
One thing to remmber when it says 50% or her liking you is money/power you get so worried aobut the money side of it because you have been told here it is not money and now osmeone says it is, thta you forget aobut the power, sure money is power but so is bieng an alpha male and having confidence! and that maes up that 50%!
but i think if you go on to the forum its a waste of time as its only about the ladder so they do not know the whole game
P.S if you ever visit there site never will you call sosuave a troll, there are people with 17,000 posts and heres what i heared form some one.
"How about 900 in less than a month? (hooray for OT, which Im sure is what made my post count so high so fast) "
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CableLight
Master Don Juan
The part I liked best was about men and women being friends...
"No man can just be friends with a woman he finds attractive."
Exceptions:
"He's gay"
"He doesn't find you attractive."
"He has a woman higher on the ladder than you."
Criticism:I have lots of male friends who would never think of me that way blah blah blah.
Answer:Your friend doesn't find you attractive, or he's currently doing better, or he's gay or you're wrong.
I love it
"No man can just be friends with a woman he finds attractive."
Exceptions:
"He's gay"
"He doesn't find you attractive."
"He has a woman higher on the ladder than you."
Criticism:I have lots of male friends who would never think of me that way blah blah blah.
Answer:Your friend doesn't find you attractive, or he's currently doing better, or he's gay or you're wrong.
I love it
TyTe`EyEs
Master Don Juan
Good sh!t.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
The ladder theory itself is correct...But their theory of attraction is overly simplified and flawed. They seem to think if you act like a criminal chicks will pursue you to no end, and if you are intelligent with a good job then you have no chance. That's just stupid.
CableLight
Master Don Juan
Well...I think you might have oversimplified it too much yourself.
Not saying that I totally buy into every word the thing is about (given at least some of it can be classified as satire) but there's one part on there - I think "Common Misconceptions" or something like that which goes into what you were talking about.
I don't know about you guys, but I think I laughed more times reading this than I said "Wow, that's insightful." It's entertaining, to say the least.
McKindley
Senior Don Juan
My ex girlfriend sent me the link once. She raved about how dead on it was.
As a side note, the reason she liked me initially was because I didn't pay much attention to her. After reading the ladder theory she said that was probably why.
As a side note, the reason she liked me initially was because I didn't pay much attention to her. After reading the ladder theory she said that was probably why.