Knowing that you don't know vs. Ignorance

[Maxtro]

I have spent years reading many eBooks and watching many types of pick up material. Unfortunately the most common feeling I'm getting is frustration.

Right now my biggest problem is knowing that I have to do something in a particular situation yet I don't know how to do it properly. And I know that what I can think of to do in that situation is most likely not good enough or possibly just wrong.

Here's an example.

One of the girls who I'm interested in just graduated college. I talked to her semi-regularly when I saw her in class but don't really have contact with her outside of school even though I have her Facebook and number.

I know it's proper etiquette to congratulate her. But since this is a girl I'm interested in I have to do more than just txt her "Congrats Kumi!"

I know that the message I send her should raise her interest level, demonstrate high value, and be ****y and funny. I don't know how to convey those properly so I ended up spending 30 minutes writing her a Facebook message that was only about 5 sentences. I was actually starting to get frustrated and that makes it even worse because it may affect the words I choose. I'm still worried that the message I sent was wrong.

I don't think there is anything worse than knowing that you don't know. I wonder if I would be better off ignorant. That way I wouldn't have to worry about not meeting all the aspects that are needed.

 

[Desert Fox]

You don't know anything. You're overanalyzing this ****.

You could write the next fvckin "gone with the wind" for this b1tch and you still wouldn't get any pvssy. Men don't sit at home for 30 FVCKIN MINUTES thinking about what he is going to write to some girl.

You're a loser dude...fvckin sad. Stop thinking so much about this girl who is not worth 2 minutes of your time let alone 30.

 

[Sir_Turtle]

overthink much?

here's something that you're doing that you need to stop doing. THINKING.

you need to stop thinking about it and just live inteh moment and have fun, stop caring about results. Caring about results so much simply means you'll spend all your time worrying about how you might screw things up and you will then fufill your own prophecy .

Act in the moment. stop worrying about what you want to accomplish and just enjoy the moment,help others enjoy the moment.

the way you're going now you're just gonna wallow in self pity and selfishness for the rest of your life.

 

[cola]

The oracle of delphi said socrates was fhe wisest man in the land because he knew that he knew nothing at all.. its a great way to be.

 

[Kevin Feng]

I think one of the greatest epiphanies I had with pick up was the fact that micromanaging too much will destroy your game.

I used to do the exact same thing, I remember sitting down in front of facebook and taking an hour to write a message that should have taken no more than 30 seconds.

I just became so infatuated with certain women and I wasn't sure what to do, so I thought that if I mastered every message I sent to her that I would somehow win her over.

Keep in mind, pick up is all about numbers, this applies to so many things in life: investing, sports, games, what have you. If you can't leverage a large pool of numbers, you're bound to fail, if you try and micromanage one situation to the bone, you're going to drive yourself insane.

Instead of focusing on this one girl, you need to hedge your bet by working on other girls at the same time.

-Kevin

 

[Maxtro]

Didn't have internet access for a couple of days.

First thing. Wow Desert Fox. That's uncalled for.

Might want to reread the registration terms. I'll make one part easy for you.

If you insult, harass, or disrespect any member of this forum, you will be banned or suspended from the forum.

Sir_Turtle is right. I'm over thinking. I spend too might time thinking about the consequences and thinking what a PUA would do in that situation. Too much time is wasted trying to read the girls and wait for the IOI's and junk like that.

Carrying about results is another problem. I want to not be outcome dependent. But that's not really the theme of this thread. I'm starting to wonder this PU stuff is actually making real life more complicated than it really is.

Interesting bit of information cola. That's kind of what I'm saying.

Cr1msonKing, even though I was afraid, I still did send the message. And I even got a response which I wasn't expecting at all.

Yeah inaction is a pattern of mine. I am working on that. When I get back from vacation I'm going to invite that girl out. Most likely she'll decline but at least I'll know I gave it a shot.

All of the feelings you get from women your interested in are Drum Rolllllll

REGRET.

How should I take that comment? The way I read it is that I only have feelings of regret from girls that I've been interested in. While that is true I don't know how it's relevant.

Good advice Kevin. I definitely need to change on how I work on girls. In the past I used to focus solely on one girl and didn't pay any attention to any others. Now I try to focus on 2-4 at a time. But I still get infatuated with them.

Micromanaging is an interesting word. I don't know if what I'm doing applies or I may be misunderstanding the usage.

But still getting back to the point of this thread I think that worrying if my actions convey myself as a high value male is actually limiting what I do. Now I realize that caring how other people react is the theme of this thread.