"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Kiss rejection? Jeez

italostud

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Hey whattup sosuave. It's been a while. Anyways, I've been gaming tons of girls over the past few months, racking up the lays. My game just keeps improving and improving. But what to do when you suddenly hit a roadblock because some girl just won't let you kiss her?

This usually doesn't happen to me, in fact I can't remember the last time it happened. Anyways, long story short, went out with this girl for a 1st date. Everything was going great, my game was on 100%, I was very relaxed, in control etc. We were very touchy feely throughout the date, her initiating on me and vice-versa.

So I'm dropping her off at her car, we're talking etc, I tell her she smells nice and I'm working my way around her neck to her earlobe, then I'm going for the kiss, and she pulls away. Whoa, wtf, weird feeling for me, I'm not used to that. Then we talk a few more mins, and I tell her I gotta go, we hug, and she pulls away before I can even try to move my mouth around into kissing position. She gives me a little sly smile before she gets out and says she had a good time, and that was it.

What do you guys think? Low IL, or IL so high she's playing hard to get? Is there even such a thing as IL so high it backfires on you and she plays hard to get?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Is there even such a thing as IL so high it backfires on you and she plays hard to get?
No. That would require self control. Women don't have that.

You can't tell me this woman has NEVER kissed ANYONE on the 1st date.

It just means lukewarm interest - but not necessarily fatal. If you aren't making out heavy by the 3rd date, give up. In my experience, it's hopeless after the 3rd.
 

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Thanks for the responses guys. I think she's a bit of a nice girl so I'm going with Teflon's theory, but it could also be mediocre interest...who knows, i'll find out on date 2.
 

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It's usually the simplest answer.... ur breathe smelled like bootydo...

bootydo = ur breathe smells like my booty do


-Cod3r
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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italostud

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Haha nah man. Thanks for the advice guys.
 

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Look, she was letting you kiss her neck, ear lobe, etc...

So she is attracted to you and wants to get sexual, but some chicks (being the dumb beings that they are) believe that by NOT kissing the guy on the first date, demonstrate their value and makes them feel less like the a slut.

Dont worry about it man. Looks like your game is tight ("you smell nice"... classic line... perfect excuse to get close up, then the neck, etc... damn man! thats exactly what i do!!!")

You'll get the kiss, and possibly more next time you take her out.

p.s. you said you were dropping her off at her car??? man! next time give her some damn alcohol!
 

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yeah, shes playing hard to get. shes one of those dumb girls that thinks being a challenge makes them hotter, lol. totally got it wrong. Alot of guys on here think the same way; challenge=hotness. its stupid.
 

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I hate when some chicks overly play hard to get... When a girl does that to me, I just next her, and she ends up regretting she played that game with me.

I'd go out with that girl again and kino her some more, and just go for that kiss again. Like one person said, she is just probably one of those girls who don't kiss on the first date.
 

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Haha I had the same type of thing happen last weekend! Keep in mind I'm in highschool and this was a very very shy nice type of girl. well I investigated the matter and found out that the girl wanted more from me and an actual relationship before she would kiss me. Granted she's never been kissed b4 but.........Thats just not what I'm looking for so I pulled out my LJBF card and My NEXT!!!......... Some girls place to much importance on a kiss
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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