"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Kino What am i doing wrong

bluemanson

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Hi Guys this is my 1st post.

Ok i have this girl in my class in university. we always together and we always chatting and stuff during and after class. She has other guy friends. Now when i spoke to her 1st, i did Kino, light touches on her arm, back hands. after about 2 weeks i touched her on the waist and she told me that she doesnt like people touching, so i told her in a c&F way " why, did i turn you on" and i smiled :) she just gave me this look. I didnt care what she thought, later i just spoke to like normal in my C&F way. she was cool. a few days later i initiated kino again but now she doesnt respond. did i start again to soon or should i wait longer.

Thanks
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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bluemanson

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i think you right, she might be on to my game,
and reading this girl is kind of difficult. still learning the don juan way LOL
she changes her mood, i email her, then shes different but when i phone her, it sounds likes she excited to hear my voice. D@mn she just confuses me.
I have asked her out for lunch and it went all good but after that she just seemed different.
what else can i try to see if she interested
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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DonGorgon

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bluemanson said:
i think you right, she might be on to my game,
and reading this girl is kind of difficult. still learning the don juan way LOL
she changes her mood, i email her, then shes different but when i phone her, it sounds likes she excited to hear my voice. D@mn she just confuses me.
I have asked her out for lunch and it went all good but after that she just seemed different.
what else can i try to see if she interested
Dont let her confuse you ,,, you need to cofuse her.. dont bother to read her, make her read you ... you be the prize..
 

DavenJuan

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"i dont like being touched"....

i wouldve responded " i guess your not use to attention uh?"

dont by no means apologize for your actions. you express yourself with your hands, and its part of your personality.

withdraw your actions a bit if she seems creeped out. but never apologize for being YOU
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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schttrj

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i found out that when they say anything like that, its best if u dont answer that and just ignore that. make her think about it. u know we guys are somewhat very bad at social skills. even if we think we are hiding something, we cant. so its better that we dont make it clearer by saying any c/f or negs...
 

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Sounds like you creeped her out a little, to be honest. I tend to start with some light kino, and wait until she reciprocates, or escalates it, before amping it up myself, or at least looking for some decent IOI's before escalating. Good luck.
 
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