"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Kino Resistance

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Sometimes I'll seem to get pretty good IOIs, but then the moment I try kino, they seem to freak out. This isn't even hard-core kino either. I wouldn't claim to be a kino master yet (altho I've looked at the dicarlo escalation ladder), but I've had girls seem to flip when I just touch their arm or shoulder before. It's like they were raped by their dads as children and have gone insane or something...

Are some girls just resistant to kino? Perhaps all shy girls? Or some subset of shy girls?

Or perhaps I am just getting unlucky and trying it on specific girls who aren't interested, in which case I should just take the hint and move on to others. That's my usual response.

What have been the experiences of others? If a girl acts weird in response to kino, should you move on and continue to work on your game?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Mindtrust

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Firstly, there is a time and a place for kino...

I think the key is, the more practice you have at it, the more you will realise when to use and not to use.

Its a skill and all skills have to be learnt..

Once you have mastered it then you will get the vibes you are expecting..

Mindtrust.
 

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Well, that is all true, but my main question is whether there are some girls who just really tend to react negatively to kino (or maybe you just have to go especially slow with them). If I'm just f*cking up the kino that's one thing, but maybe there are some people with whom I just shouldn't do much kino at all until later on.
 

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im no expect but this is what i would do. If i was going to use kino i would wait until the girl touches me first. That way you know that she is ready to be touched and WANTS to be touched.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Play the Game

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If you're doing it by the book, you're probably freaking them out cuz you don't know the proper time to do it or how to do it.
I don't wait for a girl to touch me, that's for pussies. I try to lay it on her as soon as she's ready.

You know i can't even explain it... i just do it. like nike. Don't think too much about it, its all emotional. you have to feel it.

Shy girls tend to have that barrier to them that you have to cross. I've never liked doing it myself...
I feel a bit weird when the girl kisses me but doesn't return the vibe at first. It takes them a while to get used to expressing feeling with other people.
 

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As a woman I can tell you this much...usually if a woman tenses up or pulls away at even the slightest physical contact she just does NOT want you to touch her. I can't speak for all other women, but when I pull away and act tense when a guy touches me it is because I either do not like him as a person or I am not attracted to him and do not want to encourage him to pursue me.
 

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Here's a good clue to look for to determine if she is open enough to you for you to even try to attempt to touch her...

If her arms or legs are crossed...it's a no go.
If her arms and legs aren't crossed and she's leaning in towards you...it's a go
If she is sitting sideways instead of directly facing you...it's a no go
If her eyes are darting all around like she's looking for the nearest exit...it's a no go.
If her facial expressions show tense upper eyelids, raised eyebrows, nose crinkled, lips tight...she doesn't like you...those are all indicators that a person is annoyed or disgusted.
 

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Wyldfire is right you are obviously doing something wrong when trying to kino these girls and most likely its because you are thinking about it to much
 
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