Kino and kiss on the first date - Yes or No

[The Diver]

I have a question about kino and kiss on the first date.
Since I took the RP, I find myself swing between those two schools: Kino and kiss, or not.

The majority on this site strongly advocate kino, and pushing for the kiss on the first date, for the apparent reason mention on here many times before.

By kinoing the girl on the first date, I'm telling her I'm already like her, and interested in her sexually. There is no wondering or uncertainty on her part. And we all know, Predictable is boring.

But on the other side, there is Pook who said:

"I do not kino a chick, certainly not on dates at first.
I'm already a sexual being now, there is no need for me to kino a girl. She will know I'm a sexual being already. I do not need to touch her."

I'm interested in hearing what is your preference, and what's your take on Pook's approach.

(Btw, there were a young poster here a few months ago, who claim he never touches the girl on the first date, and almost always got a second date)

 

[RangerMIke]

I don't touch chicks until they touch me first. I always go for a kiss on the first date if I am interested. These are ways to test her interest in you. I never try to force anything, if they are not willing to come to me I know they are going to make things hard.

She already knows you are interested in her since you asked her out, touching her really does nothing for you. At some level she is interested in you as well... since she is there, but you don't know if her interest is romantic if she starts touching you... well then you know.

It's different if you meet a chick at a party or a bar. I'll touch women in these situations if I get signs of interest, and I feel like it and see if she touches back. It's just instinctual... I don't plan it I just read the situation and act on what is happening.

 

[Murk]

I'm a very tactile person, I will do whatever the fvck I want on a date as long as the girl is still comfortable. If Pook didn't kino on dates, great for him, I do what works for me, so should you.

Moral of the story: experiment and do what works for you. We are all individuals with different personalities, some of us can get away with murder, others can't help but come across desperate and creepy. Some of us have faces that allow us more freedom, others need to toe the line more closely.

Go and do your thing and come to your own conclusions, or maybe we should resurrect Pook to come give us handjobs?

 

[marmel75]

Without question yes.

News flash women already know you want to fvck them the first time you message/talk to them.

Then it becomes a question of are you man enough to go for what you want. Many guys fail miserably in this area.

The key is to do it tactfully and understand proper progression...if you do it wrong then it makes you look desperate...if you do it right then it makes you look seductive...

 

[The Diver]

It's different if you meet a chick at a party or a bar.

Yes, that understandable, as the primary interaction here is toward ONS.

 

[MrJack]

Test waters. Start light like a touch on the arm. I’ve never ended with success without touching a girl at all during first date. It seems ludicrous to not at least touch in some way. Also always go for a kiss during or at end of first date IMO or it’s just a big fail and you won’t get a second.

 

[The Diver]

Guys, maybe I haven't made myself clear. I'm not at all new to the game. I already have my own way of doing things that work for me with great success.

I'm interested in what you are doing, what's works for you, and what is your take on the subject.

 

[skinnyguy]

One time I didn't initiate Kino at all, the girl thought I wasn't interested in her at all and was wondering why. She kept grabbing my d!ck and kissing me on the cheek and I didn't react at all. This kind of sh!t makes them go crazy.

 

[flowtheory]

Always kino. Touching in the correct manner makes people more comfortable, present and feel more connected. Plus it adds levels of excitement.
The more you can get someone in their body and out of their head in a date, the better.

Always go for the kiss on the first date if you have interest.

 

[Magotrox]

Pook said that you do not need to kino when your sex appeal is strong enough, male enough, that you know she is TOTALLY under your spell by other signs, like non verbal communication, so you just do not need to touch to spark things on (c'os the fire is already on). When Pook said that, he was already a sexual being, a strong and muscular male, acting as a male, etc... he was BIG (in real muscular terms) when he said that. Most athletes have this passive attraction by looks and muscle power. But for the most rest of the mortals, kino is a GREAT tool to create comfort (there are TONS of articles about it on the web). I used kino in 100% of the my chases, and it NEVER failed me. When kino was successful, even before go out with the girl, all the chase was a success. When kino failed, the date failed, and, even when I could actually date the girl, things were bad. So, my suggestion to you is to touch the girl, even before setting the date, to know how she feels about your touch. Be casual, but make it suddenly, so the response will be emotional, and not logical (she will have no time to think how to react). When a girl like you, she will accept your touch, and even will return it on. When kino fails, this is a real bad sign. In this case, retreat and try again in other situation. KINO her to know how she feels!!! And, in the date, kino to escalate for the kiss. Always worked for me. If you are going out with a girl, sexual engaging is expected. So trust you gut and be a male. You do not need to force things up if she do not want, but going for it is part of being a man. Go for it! And master the art of kinoing. It is one of the best tools to read a girl's mind.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Depends on your objective. If you want her to stick around as a plate or potential girlfriend, the best play is to not kiss on the first date. If you want to **** her that night or by the next date, you need to go for the kiss within the first half hour.

 

[MichaelA]

Personally i wait till the woman gives me the sign by looking her straight in the eyes if she looks at my lips at any moment i know she is ready.

Now every woman is different some want games some want for you to lead some will grab you and kiss you depends on the interest level.

Not kissing her on the first date if she likes you it will make her go wonders.

I try that before and she texted me the next day.

But i was not in to her pretty much.

 

[flowtheory]

If she accepts the kiss it shows she is in fact interested. If she backs away or shuts it down, it shows she’s not interested and no amount of dates will change that natural reaction. Would rather figure it out on the first date than the second or third. Plus it shows you know what you want.

 

[EyeBRollin]

If she accepts the kiss it shows she is in fact interested. If she backs away or shuts it down, it shows she’s not interested and no amount of dates will change that natural reaction. Would rather figure it out on the first date than the second or third. Plus it shows you know what you want.

That’s false. I’ve banged women that didn’t kiss me on the first date. Some just aren’t comfortable with kissing someone they met a hour ago. Most of them I still bedded within 3-5 dates. For first dates, It is not an indication they aren’t interested.

 

[guru1000]

That’s false. I’ve banged women that didn’t kiss me on the first date. Some just aren’t comfortable with kissing someone they met a hour ago. Most of them I still bedded within 3-5 dates. For first dates, It is not an indication they aren’t interested.

Very true.

 

[The Diver]

That’s false. I’ve banged women that didn’t kiss me on the first date. Some just aren’t comfortable with kissing someone they met a hour ago. Most of them I still bedded within 3-5 dates. For first dates, It is not an indication they aren’t interested.

Agree.
I had a date who gave me a tight lips kiss on the first date (which I don't consider as a kiss at all), but invited me to her place for a third date b'cos "She wants to cook me a dinner,,,,," follow up with a coffee in the morning,,,

 

[devilkingx2]

If she accepts the kiss it shows she is in fact interested. If she backs away or shuts it down, it shows she’s not interested and no amount of dates will change that natural reaction. Would rather figure it out on the first date than the second or third. Plus it shows you know what you want.

not getting a kiss on the first date only suggests that you aren't getting laid on that date specifically, sometimes girls warm up to you over time and the first date wasn't enough to get her going just yet.

not getting a kiss by the end of the second date is a really bad sign however.

 

[elunium]

I live in Brazil. Kino in necessary here from day 1.
Kissing ? The same.

Guess it depends on where you live