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Hi guys,

I'm 28 years old and met a great 21 year old girl back in January so we've been together for around 7 months. Things went very well and I found her living with me by month 5 (yes I know, in retrospect, probably not the best idea)

Up until 2 weeks ago everything was perfect - good sex, nothing but positive, fun time together and overall a very happy and healthy relationship.

Again, as I said, up until 2 weeks ago when we got into one of our only pretty big fights. Here is the problem - I handled it like a fool. After the fight, she was acting distant so I confronted her, asking her whats wrong and pushing to talk about it (mistake #1) This, of course, made her more distant which I in turn, kept pushing, making her more distant until things go worse and worse. I guess things had gone so well for more or less our entire relationship that I let my guard down and started acting needy - which of course, is woman repellent.

Finally, 3 days ago, she tells me shes sick of talking about our situation and to just let things go at whatever pace until things go back to normal. I immediately snapped out of it and started acting aloof and doubley distant which seemed to work.

Until last night where I made a major **** up. I came out a bit tipsy from a friends and she was sleeping with the TV on. When I came in the room to turn it off, she woke up and we started talking. She at this point, had retracted from the previously better attitude she had the last couple days and I fumbled hard. I told her it was probably best she stayed at her dads house the rest of the week so we can get some space as we probably haven't been separated more than a day since we met. Yes I know she was probably testing me and yes I messed that up hard.

She instantly woke up and drove to her dads. I woke up and she calls me telling me she's going to get "all her stuff", came by an hour later but only grabbed enough stuff for a couple days at most, leaving all her nicer stuff/clothes/shoes in the closet - which hints to me that she doesn't want this to be the end

I mean I wanted the space and definitely think it would have probably worked very positively had I kept my cool and mentioned it in the right circumstances. However, I did it from a place of resentment and as a reaction to her behavior which is definitely not a good thing.

My question is do you think I'll be able to recover from this? I know we moved fast but Ive never in my life spent so much time with someone and had such a consistent amount of good treatment and good times so I'd like to think there is something to this.

Obviously I'm going to honor the space and not contact her. Just want opinions on what I should do moving forward and the best course of action or recovery. I know the game but had a huge moment of weakness the last couple of weeks and I'm hoping it's not too late.

Appreciate any input
 

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Go NC,finally you have some power now that she is gone,if she contacts you wanting to move back in do not let her if you do you will lose all of your power again,BTW 5 months is way to fast to let a woman move in to your place,rule of thumb is usually a year or more for LTR's good luck.Put the rest of her sh!t in a box on your front porch and tell her to come pick it up...if she doesn't you are throwing it all in the trash.
 
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You both got shocked out of the honeymoon phase where everything is great all the time.
This is normal and has nothing to do with game. It has to do with being human beings who have bad days and crappy attitudes sometimes. No relationship will be good times 24/7 because humans aren't happy 24/7 and you will have fights.
If you don't want to be with her anymore, throw her stuff on the porch and tell her to come get it.
If you do want to continue seeing her, understand that the honeymoon stage is over and she isn't going to be agreeable and happy go lucky everyday, and neither are you. Give each other space and take it from there, while having some realistic expectations around what you want from her and what she wants from you and how you want the relationship to be. Dial it back if needed, to get your frame back but I wouldn't suggest going NC because that opens the door for another guy to enter.

As an aside: It's easy for guys and girls to say next her/him and dump her/him etc the minute she's/ he's not smiling doing everything you want but if a guy/ girl wants to have something real with someone then understand that they're not a remote control robot and will do stuff to annoy you at times. Some stuff doesn't warrant throwing in the towel.
 

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You both got shocked out of the honeymoon phase where everything is great all the time.
This is normal and has nothing to do with game. It has to do with being human beings who have bad days and crappy attitudes sometimes. No relationship will be good times 24/7 because humans aren't happy 24/7 and you will have fights.
If you don't want to be with her anymore, throw her stuff on the porch and tell her to come get it.
If you do want to continue seeing her, understand that the honeymoon stage is over and she isn't going to be agreeable and happy go lucky everyday, and neither are you. Give each other space and take it from there, while having some realistic expectations around what you want from her and what she wants from you and how you want the relationship to be. Dial it back if needed, to get your frame back but I wouldn't suggest going NC because that opens the door for another guy to enter.

As an aside: It's easy for guys and girls to say next her/him and dump her/him etc the minute she's/ he's not smiling doing everything you want but if a guy/ girl wants to have something real with someone then understand that they're not a remote control robot and will do stuff to annoy you at times. Some stuff doesn't warrant throwing in the towel.
I'm not going to go no contact completely - If she messages me I'll get straight to the point and reply. I definitely don't think me initiating contacting the coming days will be very helpful.

I recognize what I did wrong: She was distant after a big blow out that instead of letting things cool down and carrying on, I nagged her to talk about it and in turn wasn't any fun to be around. It's not an attractive quality to a woman and shows neediness. That being said, I do want this to work and reapproach in a fresh light in the next few days
 

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Bumping to get some additional perspectives
 

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Yes you can. Move on from her. Focus on other women and work on yourself.
 

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You can both reassess your situation now with this time apart. 50/50 odds on the result, but she will let you know if she wants back in or not. The minimal clothing taken is a good gauge of her mindset when she left and is probably in your favor. I do agree with your contact strategy though, what I call a soft NC.
 
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It's possible she has been thinking about branch jumping and this might be the catalyst to actually do it.

Not saying she is or isn't but at least consider the possibility.
 

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Appreciate the advice gents

Update: After barely 24 hours she called me.
She was angry and argumentative asking how it was so easy for me to ignore her so easily while she was so upset about what happened. I told her calmly and non-nonchalantly that I was serious about having some breather room after never having done so the entire relationship and that I was sorry she interpreted it that way.

My calm voice seemed to piss her off. Eventually after a few min of going back and forth the call ended.

Can't believe she came to me with this **** after barely even a day trying to twist what I was doing into me being the "bad guy" It's really making me question her maturity and conflict resolution skills. She framed it as if I kicked her out forever when I simply said we need some time apart to breathe an think since we've been butting heads for so long at this point.

Obviously she's basically telling me to contact her even though this is happening though my gut is telling me to keep up the NC and drive her a little crazier

Anyone have any thoughts?
 

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Shes trying to get you emotional again. Stay calm and relaxed.
 

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Shes trying to get you emotional again. Stay calm and relaxed.
When you don't react to her emotional outbursts she will eventually feel embarassed about the way she acted and contact you to apologize.
 

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Thanks guys. Even a day apart gave me some perspective on how I was acting lately and had me cringing so bad I don't think I'll be anything but calm and relaxed with women again.

We had bought tickets on the weekend to a play for Friday that I can't return. Ideally, I'd like to stay NC and still go with her but she told me on the phone just now she "doesn't know" about the play anymore to which I told her I'd like her to come but it's cool if she doesn't

Whats the best way to play this?
 

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Thanks guys. Even a day apart gave me some perspective on how I was acting lately and had me cringing so bad I don't think I'll be anything but calm and relaxed with women again.

We had bought tickets on the weekend to a play for Friday that I can't return. Ideally, I'd like to stay NC and still go with her but she told me on the phone just now she "doesn't know" about the play anymore to which I told her I'd like her to come but it's cool if she doesn't

Whats the best way to play this?
That doesn't know or I'm not sure response is bull. Tell her that's okay you'll take another friend. If you wait for her you've submitted.
 

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Yes you can. Move on from her. Focus on other women and work on yourself.

Come on man, you can't just MOVE on the first major fight you have with your GF.. She was not all to blame..

Op should have just let it rest a while, instead he showed her how desperate he was to resolve things..

ANY woman would be turned off by this neediness.. Then op got his timing all wrong, when asking her for space.. he probably said it out of ANGER or resentment.

There is still chance for op to save this LTR if he just backs the fuk off.

It's just not realistic to advise every dude who has the slightest fight with his chick to MOVE ON

This is a recipe for spending the rest of your life ALONE

Some dudes on here here act like there is a HB9 quality woman available to them in a moment.. Simply drop her, and there are another 50 waiting in the queue!

Op step back from this.. don't react, don't push for talk or reconciliation.. Space and time is required here!
 
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That doesn't know or I'm not sure response is bull. Tell her that's okay you'll take another friend. If you wait for her you've submitted.
I already have my colleague in line to go. To be honest, I'd like to go with her and try and rectify what's been happening with a fun night out but I know that may not the best move here. Should I just wait to hear her initiate going and if she doesn't go without her?
 

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Come on man, you can't just MOVE on the first major fight here.. She was not all to blame..

Op should have just let it rest a while, instead he showed her how desperate he was to resolve things..

ANY woman would be turned off by this neediness.. Then op got his timing all wrong, when asking her for space.. he probably said it out of ANGER or resentment.

There is still chance for op to save this LTR if he just backs the fuk off.

It's just not realistic to advise ever dude who the slightest fight with his chick to MOVE ON

This is a recipe for spending the rest of your life ALONE

Some dudes on here here act like there is HB9 quality woman available to them in a moment.. Simply drop her, and there are another 50 waiting in the queue!

Op step back from this.. don't react, don't push for talk or reconciliation.. Space and time is required here!
I completely recolonize how needy and pushy I was being. I want to make this work. The relationship was one of if not the best I've ever been in and I don't want to throw in the towel over one squabble...especially since we vibe so well personality wise.

The game here is she seems angry at me or not contacting (after 1 night) and I know in my heart its probably better not to react but she seems to be pushing for me to contact her regardless (not that women ever say anything that makes sense on this front) I'm thinking to just continue with NC for now
 

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Come on man, you can't just MOVE on the first major fight you have with your GF.. She was not all to blame..

Op should have just let it rest a while, instead he showed her how desperate he was to resolve things..

ANY woman would be turned off by this neediness.. Then op got his timing all wrong, when asking her for space.. he probably said it out of ANGER or resentment.

There is still chance for op to save this LTR if he just backs the fuk off.

It's just not realistic to advise every dude who has the slightest fight with his chick to MOVE ON

This is a recipe for spending the rest of your life ALONE

Some dudes on here here act like there is a HB9 quality woman available to them in a moment.. Simply drop her, and there are another 50 waiting in the queue!

Op step back from this.. don't react, don't push for talk or reconciliation.. Space and time is required here!
Hb9 or 10 are usually party girl or h0e mindset. So you pass it around.
 

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Hb9 or 10 are usually party girl or h0e mindset. So you pass it around.
She's probably closer to a 7 by most standard TBH but she's got just the look i love in women

She's got enormous breasts....and literally has showed me the 49358350 IMs she gets from guys on Instagram kissing her ass and pursuing her. No wonder these girls think they're holier than thou
 

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