“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Kicked Her Out of My Truck

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I've been seeing this chick for over 2 months now. There's certain things I expect when I reach 2 months with a chick. Regularly seeing each other is one of those things.

This chick is a SM. I should have learned by now to avoid dating full time SMs. Anyway, I haven't fvcking seen her in 2 weeks. A couple of times she let me come over after her kid was in bed which was fine. Then she quit doing that. I have no clue why.

So, I was supposed to see her tonight. She was already on the verge of canceling for yet another week. I ignored her for a few hours after that, so she made the effort to see me 2 hours later than usual. So I pick her up and figured we'd go out for a drink and then back to my place. She informs me that she needs to go home tonight. WTF??? It's already late, she's on her period, and she was in a rotten mood. I was not impressed at this point.

We get there and chat a bit. She's initiating a little bit of kino. She was talking about her hair and said "one day you'll see me and I'll have cut it all off." I told her "That won't happen because by the time I see you, It will all have grown back".

I didn't buy her a fvcking drink and just bought myself one. After I was done my drink, I drove her home. She mentioned seeing me next weekend which was the only positive thing I got from her all night. We got to her place and she said it was nice to see me.

I went in to kiss her a few times. She pulls away and says "Nooo, none of that tonight!" Okay, I'm fvcking mad now.
I said "You owe this to me because I haven't seen you in two weeks."
She says "Oh, I OWE this to you? No I don't!"
I say "Well, maybe you should just get out now"
"Just watch me, I will!"
"THEN GO!"

She got out and slammed the fvcking door. I haven't felt any regret over that one. I cannot tolerate women who pull away from affection to use it as a control mechanism.

On the flip side, I have a date with a 19 year old tomorrow :D
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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eh don't take any of that crap. cut your loss and move on unless she tries to contact you.

and as far as the 19 year old goes *high5* haha
I can't figure it out all these older blokes are scoring with the youngins and heres lil old me scoring with all the older ones.

nothing wrong with playing sugar daddy or toy boy in my eyes.
 

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She's playing games. If she plays games, you are right to throw her out. Should have run her over and stole her money.
 

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I think that saying "You owe me" was a huge mistake. You made it transactional in nature and now she'll be stewing about that. You gave her some serious ammo.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Atom Smasher said:
I think that saying "You owe me" was a huge mistake. You made it transactional in nature and now she'll be stewing about that. You gave her some serious ammo.
Atom beat me to it. Saying she owes you was cringeworthy. It lowers your value. She should be saying stuff like that to you, and it gets modern woman's back up like nobodies business. You can bet that line will be echoed endlessly with all her besties, followed by "You believe he said that".

They love letting their sisters know how much they're desired and at the same time her response shows she doing her bit to "fight the patriarchy", she's her own woman, no man owns her yada yada
 

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Desdinova said:
I've been seeing this chick for over 2 months now. There's certain things I expect when I reach 2 months with a chick. Regularly seeing each other is one of those things.

This chick is a SM. I should have learned by now to avoid dating full time SMs. Anyway, I haven't fvcking seen her in 2 weeks. A couple of times she let me come over after her kid was in bed which was fine. Then she quit doing that. I have no clue why.

So, I was supposed to see her tonight. She was already on the verge of canceling for yet another week. I ignored her for a few hours after that, so she made the effort to see me 2 hours later than usual. So I pick her up and figured we'd go out for a drink and then back to my place. She informs me that she needs to go home tonight. WTF??? It's already late, she's on her period, and she was in a rotten mood. I was not impressed at this point.
Okay, so her interest in you has dropped big time. She's probably seeing someone else who's giving her the d1ck.


Desdinova said:
She's initiating a little bit of kino.
After what's been going on, you should have pulled back here. She's testing you out to see what she can still get away with it.

Desdinova said:
She was talking about her hair and said "one day you'll see me and I'll have cut it all off." I told her "That won't happen because by the time I see you, It will all have grown back".
Whoa dude. You're complaining here, not good. You're asking her to reassure you that you two are still a regular thing.

Desdinova said:
I didn't buy her a fvcking drink and just bought myself one. After I was done my drink, I drove her home.
Nice.

Desdinova said:
She mentioned seeing me next weekend which was the only positive thing I got from her all night. We got to her place and she said it was nice to see me.
Should have left it at that. Hind sight's 20/20 but, after she mentions seeing you next week, leave her with a "sure babe" and take off. Leave her wondering.

Desdinova said:
I went in to kiss her a few times. She pulls away and says "Nooo, none of that tonight!" Okay, I'm fvcking mad now.
I said "You owe this to me because I haven't seen you in two weeks."
She says "Oh, I OWE this to you? No I don't!"
I say "Well, maybe you should just get out now"
"Just watch me, I will!"
"THEN GO!"
She got out and slammed the fvcking door.
It shouldn't have gotten to this point. Either way, you let your emotions get the best of you, agree with above on this one. Looking back, what would a make out session do with a chick who's on the rag?

Desdinova said:
I cannot tolerate women who pull away from affection to use it as a control mechanism.
Ha! That's what they do. Yes, it's frustrating, but your view on this one is backwards. You shouldn't have been giving her affection because of the way she'd been treating you.

Desdinova said:
On the flip side, I have a date with a 19 year old tomorrow :D
Nice, spin plates, but seems like the SM has a hook in you, could be due to her indifference lately....works both ways.
 

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Dear Des,
I think you have bent over backwards for this Woman....Good Riddance to bad rubbish!
 

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Atom Smasher said:
I think that saying "You owe me" was a huge mistake. You made it transactional in nature and now she'll be stewing about that. You gave her some serious ammo.
Yeah, I thought about that one after I said it. I didn't plan on saying it and it just came right out. Like Scaramouche said, I've been putting up with a lot of junk over the last two months from her. This isn't the first 2-week stretch that I've gone without seeing her. I don't expect long droughts after two months especially after we had the "relationship" talk (yes, she initiated that one). I've given her suggestions to increase our time together, and she's just not putting in the effort to make it happen.

If she initiates contact, I'll fix it up. If not, oh well. It's not like we saw a lot of each other.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Die Hard said:
What's an SM?
Single Mother.

I've been thinking about that cringe-worthy line I said to her. I can usually keep myself under control quite well. If a woman's dating ethic and personality pushes me to the point of saying something like that, then she's likely not a good match for me.
 

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I was dating a SM for a short while and experienced the exact same thing as you. Great sex, but always unavailable in every sense of the word. Always cancelled plans, and was just weird about even meeting up. Last week she pulls the same thing and I basically told her to jog on and I deleted her number and contact info. There is no reason to pursue these types of women. Utterly worthless.

"you owe me". Really? Other posters already got to it. But really, nobody owes nobody nothing! Unless its a financial obligation like rent or something. In the dating world, its a death kneel. As soon as a women says I owe her, its lights out. I've walked away from women who use this term.

Keep the plates going, but ditch the SM plate. you couldnt sell that thing for free at a yard sale
 

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The part that bugs me about this story is how you seem to be dependant on this chick (for your mood) and you allowed her crappy mood and actions to draw you into a little drama-fest.

I've been in similar situations with a chick behaving poorly and I've found it best to calmly dismiss her and move along with my day.

Don't get drawn into her sh!t.
 

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Desdinova said:
This chick is a SM. I should have learned by now to avoid dating full time SMs.
A single mother with children at home should never achieve higher than FB status, at best, not someone you become emotionally involved with! You've been here for almost 10 years, you should know this by now. Pump and dump and don't put too much thought into her.
 

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Des, I understand why you said "you owe me". You've been playing by her rules for the past couple of months, she doesn't see you for two weeks, talks about cutting her hair and doesn't even kiss you goodbye? 2 MONTHS AND NO KISS GOODBYE? That's some i-just-met-you-i'm-not-kissing-you type of bull****.

This woman has her own entitlement issues to sort out. You don't need to be there while she does this. Even if you did play it cool you'd still be bending over backwards in some capacity. Just keep your cool next time and just don't deal with sh!t like this anymore.
 

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Desdinova said:
I went in to kiss her a few times. She pulls away and says "Nooo, none of that tonight!" Okay, I'm fvcking mad now.
I said "You owe this to me because I haven't seen you in two weeks."
She says "Oh, I OWE this to you? No I don't!"
I say "Well, maybe you should just get out now"
"Just watch me, I will!"
"THEN GO!"
Why are you begging this low quality wh*re for a kiss and throwing a hissy fit?? You reek of desperation. Remember, this a single mom, who apparently has mental issues (as do most single moms), and who has already indicated, through her actions, that she's losing interest and likely will not be having sex with you again, ever. Have some dignity!
 

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why did you even let her into your truck? this was going to end badly, it did
 

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Desdinova said:
On the flip side, I have a date with a 19 year old tomorrow :D
^^^Miring that 30's game, where did you meet the 19 year old Des?

Nothing to add here you did the right thing, SM's are only good for PumpNDump IMO

Scaramouche said:
Dear Des,
I think you have bent over backwards for this Woman....Good Riddance to bad rubbish!
:up:
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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