"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Keyboard Jockey's Anonymous - Report here.

Cure

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I am one.

I know the theory, I’ve read dozens of guides and articles on pick up, I know everything from starting a conversation to escalating to sex, I am very confident about my looks, in good shape, dress well, can make conversation etc.

There's nothing missing except one tiny piece of the puzzle which is that despite looking and thinking like a PUA, I can’t act like one. I suffer almost total approach anxiety, and the longer it goes on, the worse it gets.

I see a hot girl, I know what to say and how to say it, but I walk by or let her walk by without doing anything, and I do this over and over again. I’ve done it at least twice today already.

The first step to overcoming a problem is admitting to it, so this is me admitting to the internet/community that I'm a key board Jockey, good in theory but in practice, paralysed to the point where I’m probably worse than an AFC.

Know a lot of PUA theory?
Spend hours reading PUA material and postings?
Offer advice/comment on others dilemmas without personal experience?
Never apply any of your knowledge in real life?

Post here, admit to it, and hopefully those of us who are in the same boat (I suspect a lot of us) can learn something from each others experience.

Cure.

(and yes I’m well aware of the irony of trying to start a discussion/help group for guys who spend to long on the forum and not enough/no time in the field,)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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bukowski_merit

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Not to hijack your thread... but im just curious... you say you have approach anxiety when you see a hot girl... do you have this same anxiety when they're just average or less? or even talking to a guy? or a UG? Do you have approach anxiety in general social situations or just when it's a hot girl?

im pretty much the opposite.... i seem to only be able to talk to women im really attracted to... and can't seem to find the desire to talk to others.
 

Cure

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No worrys mate, its a valid question.

I find, like you, I have no desire what so ever to approach women I dont find attractive. But there seems to be almost nothing in between not wanting to talk to a girl, and wanting her so badly I cant approach at all for fear of the world ending.

I have very little problem with guys or in general situations, Id even say im pretty outgoing.

It's weird, I know I can approach random hot girls and hit on them, doing that was what lost my my virginity, but the longer Ive gone without doing it the less able I am to overcome the boundary.

Cure.
 

thecurtainfalls

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You need to allow yourself to fail. Period. Your ego is still trying to shield you far too much from a blow that is ultimately not that damaging.

I think there's a common misconception among guys that "failing" in their attempt to pick up a girl has these monumental reflections on their character and self-worth. I think there's also a misconception that it's this huge, horribly awkward thing to get shot down by a girl and that she will forever laugh at the memory of you trying to pick her up. The truth is that it is incredibly common and not that big of a deal. As long as you came off sincere and confident instead of creepy, you will also be respected for your ability to reach for what you desire.
 

Warrior74

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Hi I'm Warrior74 and I am now a keyboard jockey. lol.

Mainly because I have two girls on my team (one full time and one part time), and I've become complacent. Between my health issues and working on my business I haven't been out in the field for a while. My part timer is moving on, and my full timer is busy with her kids, so I guess it's time to get off my butt and back in the field.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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zekko

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I'm a keyboard jockey in the sense that I am currently in a (very) LTR, so I can't/won't do pickup right now or spin plates. My girl has thus far proven herself worthy of my interest, so I am not going to reward that by cheating on her.

But that doesn't mean I haven't applied any of what I learn here. One of the things I take from this forum is the motivation to improve myself and be a better man. And it helps keep me motivated to keep the workouts up, which I have slacked off on at times in the past.

I've also had my share of successes and failures with women, so I think I can talk from experience from time to time. It's also interesting to gain insight on mistakes I've made in the past, and on what I've done right. And sometimes, relationships don't last forever, so someday I may have to apply more of what I've learned here.
 
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