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Kevin Samuels: Winter Is Coming

Smok1nAce

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Whats the groups opinion on KS winter is coming series...

Basically the west is in for a dating dystopia similar to Asia. It was released 3 years ago but seems more and more relevant.


 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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You want to be careful watching content like that as you will find yourself falling into an echo Chamber of negative belief systems

There are issues in the dating markets but about 75% of them are online only issues because online dating and interacting is a breeding ground for terrible behaviour patterns from both sexes

The biggest problem in dating now is that people are lazy and don't want to take any kind of risk to find a partner

For most turning up to a bar drunk and hoping for the best is about as much effort as their prepared to make

Well when men and women are making such little effort to impress or interact with one another wtf do we think is going to happen !?!

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In reality once you get to actually know a member of the opposite sex the nonsense reduces dramatically , guards are lowered and chances are given on both ends most logical people ( male and female) accept that if someone makes you feel good and you enjoy spending time with them and theres some mutual attraction everything else can kind of just work

Society really needs to turn its back on the online dating model and accept it does not work , then things will begin to rapidly improve
 

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He raises some solid points, and as someone else has already noted previously, when so few men and women are making the effort to go outside and be around fellow humans on a regular basis... Well, that flatlines our dating lives, faster than no fence around the backyard pool diminished Trigg Kisser's chances of some day filling Mac Culkin's shoes, in the inevitable Home Alone remake

In any event, what everyone else is doing is something we have zero control(and limited influence)over... It's not beneficial to spend too much time fretting over such things
 

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You want to be careful watching content like that as you will find yourself falling into an echo Chamber of negative belief systems

There are issues in the dating markets but about 75% of them are online only issues because online dating and interacting is a breeding ground for terrible behaviour patterns from both sexes

The biggest problem in dating now is that people are lazy and don't want to take any kind of risk to find a partner

For most turning up to a bar drunk and hoping for the best is about as much effort as their prepared to make

Well when men and women are making such little effort to impress or interact with one another wtf do we think is going to happen !?!

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In reality once you get to actually know a member of the opposite sex the nonsense reduces dramatically , guards are lowered and chances are given on both ends most logical people ( male and female) accept that if someone makes you feel good and you enjoy spending time with them and theres some mutual attraction everything else can kind of just work

Society really needs to turn its back on the online dating model and accept it does not work , then things will begin to rapidly improve
Totally agree most people if you log off online and speak in person have no idea about Gender war, manosphere, red pill etc. This whole 80/20 is not applicable in real life if it was there wouldn't be over 38,000 marriages in the USA a week alone. I'm not saying that in the real world there are no issues there certainly are and it's bigger now than ever. However the amount of men and women I know in real life who are not aware of these issues (and could give a shytless) is far higher then you would think
 

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This is the reason I brought it up because it seems like an echo chamber but then you hear that by 2030 50% of women will be single.
 

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when so few men and women are making the effort to go outside and be around fellow humans on a regular basis...
I think that there is a demand but nearly everyone out therehas already been to places and the typical high street establishment like bars etc is not providing the services for men and women to mingle, many women only go out with their friends to nice places not really looking to meet men, but women do want to meet menas they go to singles events, etc. But those events are kinda boring and crap. It seems to me that there needs to a social type of event that is between them.
 

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The biggest problem in dating now is that people are lazy and don't want to take any kind of risk to find a partner
This is compounded by the dynamic of each "team" thinking there's nothing wrong with them, so all the problems are with the other "team."

Men blame women.

Women blame men.

Nobody's willing to budge out of their comfort zone and do the work needed to get what they want.

The truth is it doesn't matter what the "dating market' is like.

If you simply grab your nuts and start making moves out in the world, you'll get much better results.
 

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Totally agree most people if you log off online and speak in person have no idea about Gender war, manosphere, red pill etc. This whole 80/20 is not applicable in real life if it was there wouldn't be over 38,000 marriages in the USA a week alone. I'm not saying that in the real world there are no issues there certainly are and it's bigger now than ever. However the amount of men and women I know in real life who are not aware of these issues (and could give a shytless) is far higher then you would think
You are right, most people aren't focused on the manosphere since they have other "hobbies". From what I've seen, men in the dating market generally fall into these four categories, whether here, online, or in real life.
  • Incels: Involuntarily celibate men who resent women, feeling unjustly denied relationships. They view women with entitlement and often hostility.
  • Complainers: Men who blame the dating market for their lack of success, unaware that the women they desire is unattracted to them as well.
  • The Daters: Positive, sexually active men who actively engage in dating and learn from their experiences.
  • In Relationships: Men in committed partnerships, navigating their own unique relationship challenges.
I agree most men fall into "The Daters" or "In Relationships." The other two are far less common. I only know one who might be an incel, but he's more asexual and content living with his parents, not caring about women at all.
 
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