"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Lishy

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Yo dudes (and dudettes!)

I have popped over from the good ole Loveshack to say hello to you all!:cheer:

So what is this site about then?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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This site is about improving yourself and become a better man. Which will lead to having more success with women. However the forums are littered with guys trying to get their ex g/f's back.

The most valuable thing on this site is not the feedback you get from posters but the knowledge in the articles and the bible. The Don Juan bible is on the bottom of the mainpage or there is a link in my signature. Bookmark it, you can get a wealth of knowledge there even though some guys here will date you some parts are slightly dated but the fundamentals are sound none the less.

There is also a DJ Bootcamp for those who want to improve at approaching women. Do a search and welcome to the site.

Like loveshack, we will also give you dating advice as thats what primarily the forum is used for. This site is alot more pro man than LS is, however with that comes some bitterness towards women by some posters. Also you'll get to know who the reputable posters are after awhile, watch out for keyboard jockeys, you can always tell by the threads that people start, their experience.

You can check that by clicking on their name, then view profile, then scroll down to see all threads started by so and so.

Thats Sosauve in a nutshell.
 

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Lishy said:
So what is this site about then?
We love you long time, pletty women. ;)

It's a place to BS and help other guys get their shit together. Also we won't summarily ban yo like I'm currently in the (likely) process of now over at LS just for expressing a different viewpoint.
 

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Hey Lishy. This site is about how to be awesome.

And BigJ, your doing a great job over there but yeah they will probably get rid of your non-compliant ass soon enough. I think you can get an infraction for having both a penis and a backbone, and a sense of humour is just plain offensive to the poor little poppets.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If you all have such a problem over there in LS, then why are you even wasting your time there?

If any of the males over there want the advice or POV of anyone here, then they know where to go.
 

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Burrito Supreme said:
If you all have such a problem over there in LS, then why are you even wasting your time there?

If any of the males over there want the advice or POV of anyone here, then they know where to go.
We are trying to help the poor and lost AFC that hang out over there. They are djs at heart, we just have to bring it out in them. The advice you get over there is stuff like:

- Respect her
- Listen to her
- be yourself
- Come in touch with your feminine side
- Be emotional
- be her friend and listen to her feelings

And thats a bunch of BULL****. You are retarding them and setting them back in their progress with women.
 
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Burrito Supreme said:
If any of the males over there want the advice or POV of anyone here, then they know where to go.
NOW they know where to go! Lulz:D
 

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In Motion said:
- Respect her
- Listen to her
- be yourself
- Come in touch with your feminine side
- Be emotional
- be her friend and listen to her feelings

And thats a bunch of BULL****. You are retarding them and setting them back in their progress with women.
Well the thing is, when a guy is in PAIN, from a woman, and not sure what he's doing, the first thing he's going to want to do is talk to other women and get their validation. If they tell him that he's actually in the right, then he can keep hoping. They want to hear what they want to hear.

Even I took female advice several months ago, because I wasn't strong enough to listen to myself and other guys. It didn't work.

Actually, in a way it did work. I learned to not do it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Feel free to ask for advice
 

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I'm here to give all the wimpy men advice on how to be a Real Man. I'm here and I'm at your service. I will not read the Bibles or whatever is on here. Take my advice or leave it. It's up to you.

Hi Lishy!
 

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Too bad!

Another thread closed. What a shame as I wanted to respond to some of the great posts on there. I was actually impressed by a few. I'm surprised. I agree with many of you.

As a former wimp who is no longer one, and hast gotten everything I want in life, I thought I had something to contribute here. Does it really matter what my gender is?

I support self-empowerment. I don't like whiners and victims....no matter what the gender. This is what I'm about.

I love men and I love women. Both deserve to be treated with respect and to be happy...with or without a mate. Just don't find happiness at the expense of another.

Again, maybe one day I'll read the rhetoric on here but for now I'll refrain. I'd rather keep an open mind based on what I see posted here.
 

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Lishy said:
So can I ask for advice or is it only for men?
Heck, you can ask and offer advice, but we tend to be brutes so wear your helmet.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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bigjohnson said:
That would explain your gender ambiguity.
Hahah, very funny. Nope I'm really very heterosexual. I just would rather not reveal my gender. What's the difference?
 

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Now that the invasion is over some viewpoints seem like they are softening. A few have actually come to this place and survived to report back that although we are savages we do in fact have our merits and perhaps, just maybe, a few points worth the very briefest consideration. Also we possess trinkets the natives of the LS find useful, whatever that means. I didn't understand that part really.


I'd declare victory and have a beer on that one fellas. It's all you're gonna get! :)
 

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bigjohnson said:
Now that the invasion is over some viewpoints seem like they are softening. A few have actually come to this place and survived to report back that although we are savages we do in fact have our merits and perhaps, just maybe, a few points worth the very briefest consideration. Also we possess trinkets the natives of the LS find useful, whatever that means. I didn't understand that part really.


I'd declare victory and have a beer on that one fellas. It's all you're gonna get! :)
There's no "victory" and there's no loss. Why do you think you "won?" And what did you win? Some of us are open to some of your views? Are some of you open to some of our views? If so, everyone wins and gains. There are no losers. There's no battle.

But I'll take the beer anyway!:up:
 

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Will it help you grow a sense of humor? Good lord.
I absolutely have a sense of humor. That's why I'm here.:crackup:

If you knew me, you'd know that, man with the big penis...err I mean bigjohnson.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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