"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Just trying to get a fell for this place...

Casino

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Are some of these people so socially inept that they have trouble making eye contact and saying "hello" to random people?

is there any other sites for more advanced DJ's that can discuss some cutting edge ****. I mean cause mother****ers is out there scared and ****. i just want to talk about some real ****ing DJ **** and not how "I couldnt say HI to an 90 year old lady in a wheel chair and Quiznos" god damn that **** is lame.

seriously whoever runs this ***** needs to dedicate a section to newbies..cause this **** is straight up lame and after seeing some of your pictures I am ****ing embarrassed to be associated with this **** sometimes.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Big Eee Zee

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he's an ass about it, but he's right. This site has become a place where there are like 40 of us who contribute (or try to) and hundreds of newbs who keep saying shyt like:


"my g/f left me and i dont know what to do and she is looking at other guys and i cant sleep and i want her back so bad that i sent her flowers and wrote her poems and i dont know what i did wrong can you help me"


It gets old.
 

TedJustAdmitIt

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You're b!tching about people being b!tches.

Oh,the irony.

This is for the more technically minded seductionists:

http://www.fastseduction.com/discussion/

This is PlayerSupreme's site,doesn't get alot of traffic but there's a nice metaphysical bent to PS's writings and plenty of good stuff has been posted in the past:

http://pimphop.com/phpBB2/

To be honest tho there's an equal amount of chaff on all sites to do with seduction along with many who don't really get but pretend they do and dish out "advice" left,right and center(KBJ).....this site is no worse really.

You just have to dig a bit to find the wheat...that's all.

Have you THOROUGHLY searched and read this site?

Cos there's been some very good articles posted...granted a lot were posted in the past,but they are there.

From the tone of your post tho,I think fastseduction.com might be more your thing.....more "game".
 

nishbuk

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We have lost alot of the older sages...Well at least there are some of us who ARE making an effort. And those of us that are driven will be teaching class here eventually...
There are alot of newbs here including myself...
you might want to try
pua4life, or fastseduction.com
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Sasha

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ofcourse!!

All newbies comes here and as soon as they relize what they have been doing wrong and as soon as they learn they split from this site and never come back!! :woo:
 

cactus3178

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Casino, like it was mentioned above, check out ASF if you haven't already.

It's a lot more focused, less n00bs, more business. Obviously, this place has it's 'issues', but don't forget that people have to learn somewhere. True, if they'd learn to STFU and READ, take ACTION, and see an IMPROVEMENT instead of whining here, that'd be great, but the both of us know that ain't gonna happen.

They have to take that step for themselves.
 

Alphathree

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The only thing wrong with this place is the negativity constantly spread 'round by just a few people.
 

Casino

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I like ASF but the board just sucks

i think im going to start a UBB and invite some of you guys and just kick real world knowledge. I mean banging chick knowledge. No this quasi psychological mumbo jumbo.

pimp ish.

ATLien style.
 

mrRuckus

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Originally posted by Casino
I like ASF but the board just sucks

i think im going to start a UBB and invite some of you guys and just kick real world knowledge. I mean banging chick knowledge. No this quasi psychological mumbo jumbo.

pimp ish.

ATLien style.

Have you considered possibly broadening your horizons a bit beyond "pimpin some hos" and perhaps learn some useful knowledge such as effective written communication skills? Perhaps you could try some literature, science, or math?

You could continue to deride people in five threads who may be more introverted than you naturally but may kick your ass in other areas, but that would just make you look like an ass so I know you won't do that.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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