"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Just saw "Joker"
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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I plan to re-watch this in about a month. I just loved the 70s/early 80s retro vibe and the imagery of the city just brought me into the movie. Again, I like the atmosphere of this movie and feel, as another movie reviewer commented (Jeremy Jahns), that the subway scene and class conflict portrayed in the movie seems to make the movie "too real" to feel comfortable and portrays withdrawal symptoms from medication due to city budget cuts as being effectively responsible for the Joker behaviour.
Also those who are upper status who get the girls also harass and mess with other women for fun. Most of the bad behaviour from other guys against women are usually guys who are up there in status and can get any woman they want and get away with raping/hurting women without LA going after them (i.e. we see this with Brock Turner), while the Joker-incel is more withdrawn and just minding his own business most of the time until things hit a breaking point.
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Instead we got the story if a guy who was already mentally ill and autistic who didn't take his meds.
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He was not genetically mentally ill as it appears you are portraying. He was abused as a child and chained to a radiator. His realization that his mother was complicit in having an abusive boyfriend was what lead him to say his life is a comedy rather than a tragedy and kill his mother. Also his true father "could" have been Thomas Wayne because he found a picture of in the place of his mother with T.W. initial on the back of it and the claim that he was adopted could have been an elaborate cover-up. If that is true then he was rejected by his true father, and in a sense, rejected by his mother as well and consigned to a woeful inferior life because of the abuse and neglect, and ultimately rejected by everyone via neglect.
So, the idea here is does someone really have to be rejected by society to be rejected, or just neglected and invisible? The incel resonance is the feeling of being invisible, neglected or that you really don't register in anyone's radar and feeling alone, not necessary because some girl you are obsessed with/or have oneitis with "rejected" you. . The decision for the city to cut funding to for his continued therapy sessions and meds is an example of this type of neglect/rejection. They don't care if he experiences withdrawal symptoms from the meds.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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I haven't watched and will Not ever watch another Hollywood movie. Hate Joaquin Phoenix and his stupid furry burry politics.
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I have nothing against Joaquin Phoenix but I can't stand the way actors use the Oscars as platforms for their political beliefs.
They say they feel obligated to use that stage to say something important and raise awareness of whatever it is they're into.
But there's a time and a place, people.
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I associate him with "Signs". Swing away, Merrill.
Actually, now I associate him with The Joker. And bad award speeches. And his weird David Letterman appearance.
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That pissed off blue collar who got bullied from his wife and people around him really is one of my favourite characters.
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I thought Joaquin's character and the movie was really interesting. But I've never once felt like this was THE Joker, Batman villain. It's more like Taxi Driver, the story of one man's breakdown and turn to darkness.
I've never liked the "multiple Joker characters" theory, that this is one guy in a series of different clown criminals who were forerunners for, or the inspiration to, the eventual real Joker. I think the TV show Gotham used that premise? But I'm not sure, I don't watch it.
The other idea here is that this is just one of another false origin story that the Joker is telling, like Heath Ledger had several different versions he told. Some people seem very attached to this idea that the Joker should not have an actual backstory, and he should remain a mystery. Personally, I don't care one way or the other.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
interesting theory
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I was an aerospace engineer during that rough patch of time. He was our hero - and everywhere I've worked there was always some older generation guy that fit that character.
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Engineer mindset is bad for socialization because it's too honest and needs accuracy and truth. A language 96% of people do not speak.I was an aerospace engineer during that rough patch of time. He was our hero - and everywhere I've worked there was always some older generation guy that fit that character.