"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Just got home from a date

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i met this HB 8 yesterday on the net and we agreed to meet today.

I took her out for some bowling and a walk in the park....She told me i was WAY to confident and ****y,and that was a turn off for her.....i was even stupid enough to try to kiss her...she pulled back...yes i tried the MAVEC stuff...lets say i suck at it!


When she stepped out of the car she told me to call her,because she doesnt call guys....wtf did she mean by that?

Should i next this *****?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How about this. Don't expect anything from her. DO NOT CALL HER. And continue dating other people. If she calls you then, continue on. If not... NEXT. But from what you said it sounds like she's expecting you to roll over like all the other guys she dates.

The hotter the girl... the less amount of attention you should give her. It drives them nuts.

Good luck :woo:
 

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Hmmm...yes she is very hot....i was considering to give her a call after 3 days....but u are right,maybe not calling her at all is better.Well i have another date on friday,with a HB6 we will see what happends there.But im conisedring to drop that C+F ****...it just doesnt work for me.
 

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Originally posted by cfajason
Hmmm...yes she is very hot....i was considering to give her a call after 3 days....but u are right,maybe not calling her at all is better.Well i have another date on friday,with a HB6 we will see what happends there.But im conisedring to drop that C+F ****...it just doesnt work for me.
I only like C+F if it fits the guy and doesnt seem forced. I think it works well for those of us who are wise-asses eevryday of our lives.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Don't force it if your not a wise ass. Just be natural like cfajason suggested. I think most people can sense when a person is being fake. Just don't suck up to her.
 

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Doh! I mean as BigMike suggested, not cfjason. Long day at wrk.
 

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After a kiss rejection, I would say that nothing short of saving her life is likely to turn this thing around without you selling your soul.

NEXT.
 

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After a kiss rejection, I would say that nothing short of saving her life is likely to turn this thing around without you selling your soul.
Not necessarily. With my last gf (who I went out with for 2 months), the first time we went out, she wouldn't let me kiss her and the next 2 times, she wouldn't do more than a very brief kiss on the lips. (I actually made a thread on this at the time, its called "Possible to 'speed up the process' with a 'nice girl'?" if you wanna search it)
Yet after about a month, I was fvcking her every night.

From what you said in the original post, i get the impression that she might have rejected the kiss for the same reason my girl did - she suspected i was a player and was basically testing me to see if i'd still be keen on her after it was clear she wasn't easy.

I also reckon she's testing you in the same way by asking you to call her.

Personally I'd call after a couple days or so, but only if you are genuinely interested in her. Cos you're obviously not getting any easy sex off her.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hmmm....im gonna wait a couple of more days before i call her...she had sent me an e-mail saying that she had fun yesterday.....Will let u guys know how things are going....as for mavec,yes i need to work on it a lot.....i will try mavec on every freaking chick i meet in the future;)
 

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I don't think this went entirely bad. You probably just moved in for a kiss a little too quick. It is possible she didn't like you as well but I'm not sold on that.

The line about I don't call... just reiterates what we already know ... that you doing the calling and setting up dates for the first few - that of course shifts once you are kissing her. :)

I'd call her in a few days and just go have some fun. All the while don't put to much mental energy into this one either.
 

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DO NOT CALL! NO WAY!

Let her call you. If she sent e-mail, it means she likes you. Send e-mail back, BUT A VERY VERY SHORT one. Like "yea, it was nice".

BUT DO NOT CALL HER!! If she dosen't call you, NEXT!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by cfajason


.She told me i was WAY to confident and ****y,and that was a turn off for her....



Yet she sends you email and tells you to call her anyway.

Do not let up.
 

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I just got a SMS from the girl....its said: Delete my nr. u over ****y a**hole!


WTF is her problem?I havent called or answered her e-mail and she does this.
 

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Hmm... this was went down the AW/drama queen road - that was pretty fast. I'd suggest taking her advise and deleting her number. Don't try and figure it out - you'll just bang your head against the wall.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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