I've texted her 5 times over the last week and she hasnt responded back. should i start stalking her?
of course
To those saying you still need to "learn game" -- sure, true to an extent. But by going out and pursuing your passions, picking up new hobbies, and so on, you'll probably implicitly learn a lot about vibing with people in social situations. And you'll be an interesting guy as a result of all you do. Think of Iceberg's post: he probably met lots of people, put himself out there, and gained a lot of "game" advantage on the side when he was pursuing all those activities (as a _side_ benefit!).
You have a very good point of view and I agree wholeheartdly.
It's like, a lot of people are acting like they have to have a masters degree in women before they can go start living life. That's not how it works. You learn **** by doing. There is a difference between coming here, posting to learn hwere you messed up so you won't do it again, and coming here to avoid mistakes altogether which is what I get the sense too many people do nowadays.
The best way you can learn, is to go out and fvck up.
lol, you are going to fvck up now, or you are going to fvck up later. There is no getting around fvcking up. It's gonna happen. Readingt this forum and then putting it to use is like spending years in the army reserve, then being called into Verdun in World War 1 lol. There are just going to be some things you aren't prepared for.
But nothing is stopping you from going out and trying to build the life you want to have today. You gotta start somewhere. And it's best to start with some hobbies, take care of yourself physically, learn how to half ass dress yoruself.. who the fvck cares that you don't have 10 plates that are all Hb9's right now. right now you are jacking off to asian porn on the internet. Baby steps.
Alot of this stuff, you learn by default when you go in the field. When I first got really serious about talking tow omen, i went and tried to get 100 rejections starting on my 21st birthday, i never got close to 100 and had a phone full of numbers, stuff like, when do i call back, how do I act busy, that's stuff that you don't even have to ask because you ARE busy. You call when you freaking can lol. You are not going to bother with the girl that flakes on you 2 times beucase you had 2 other girls that would not mind spending the night with you and you aren't going to give this one the time of day. And all that comes from just working numbers.
I had more sex in my first 6 months of being 21, then i have had in the the previous 20 years, plus the next 2 years of my life until i met my now wife, combined, and I don't think it's even that close. was bagging seriously 3 or so women a week at one point. got ot the point they were bringing their friends over and i would bag them lol. this was al'l when I was new to game. I wasn't anywhere near the level I am now as far as understand women, all that was just pure "go out and get it". was in shape, had a nice wardrobe, kept my place clean, kept me clean, drove a decent car, was confident because i knew i wsas never more than a phone call away from a female.
as i got older, i go to the point that, sex just for the sake of sex got kinda old, and i would rather spend 2-3 plates and then do my own personal thing in life than just spend all my time fvcking or trying to fvck.
but having a life, being in good shape, clean yourself up, and get some balls and just start approaching women. you won't be perfect, i was far from it. but i wanted to get laid lol. i made plenty of mistakes. i got used, i burned bridges, i did a lot of dumb stuff, but you know what, it was fun, I learned, and most importantly, i was getting laid in the process.
do you understand just how easy it is go at that chick at bath and body works and say "hey look i saw you over there and i normally don't do this (bull****) but you are so stunning and i just have to have your phone number so I can take you out tomorrow night" and pull out your phone and make her say no to you? you will be shocked how many times she says yes.
actually, i was in the, where was i, oh target 2 nights ago, toletriy/personal man **** shopping, and there was this black chick, young, maybe 19-20,and she had a smile on her face and i have a thing for the expensive lasguna that they sale, so I had some in my cart and she looks it and looks at me and says "you gonna eat it by yourself" and i said "you want to join me" and she just blushed... done right then in there. it's that easy. stay in shape, keep yourself up, have a life that doesn't get you down all the time so you walk around feeling pretty good about yourself, teh women will notice.
i told her i was just playing and that i was married and she said "see you shouldn't even be playing with me like that".. she WAS WAITING ON ME TO HIT ON HER. i was just doing that out of instinct. i instinctively game *****es lol. I'm a flirt, way worse than my wife is.
hell there was a time I was fresh out of drug rehab, I made my mom take my car for the first 3 months out of rehab so I couldn't go anywhere on my own, as well as my debit/credit cards and put restrictions on my bank account and i made her give me 300 dollars a week, and i lived in a rehab facility, and i was freaking going on 3-4 dates a week. lol, hell i was walking to dates i bull**** you not. I was having girls pick me up from the rehab place to go to dates lol. could care less, and they don't either. that time in my life showed me just how little money mattered when it came to having sex. I mean, it helps, but ****. I'm in the zoo making out with a HB7 that I walked to to the zoo to go see. I had a girl so crazy about me (at this point, i had even stopped telling girls I had a little money or I actually had a car), she would drop her car off at the rehab place so i could use it, let me take her to school (she was in college) and i would pick her up and we would go to her place or go out afterwards. girl was crazy about me and here i am no car, supposedly no money. i would walk to the gym everyday and walk home. i walked everywhere. i didn't get my car back until damn near 5 months clean. Mind you, it was my car, i would not LET me have it back until I was 5 months clean, i wasn't ready for it.
the more you talk to women, the more comfortable you will become aorund them, the more leeway you will have. when i first started to talking to women, it's like i would look for the first sign of rejection and then head out. I remember, one partaricular pick up which was probably one of my best in my personal history, with the help of about 20 mr. budweisers lol, there was this smoking hot HB 8.5-9 that I actually went to high school with that i ran into at a bar with a friend of mine. I asked for her number, she politity shot me down, and for some reason, that night i just wasn't taking no for an answer. In a joking manner i was like "no, see this is what's going to happen. your gonna give me your number, we are going to go out and kick it, and dammit you'r gonna like it". is really doing it to be funny in front of my friend but i'll be dammed if she didn't reluctantly come around. I could tell she was thinking about it so I said "look stop playing around give me your number" and pulled my phone out and bam. turns out, it wasn't me she rejecting, she had an on and off again BF and once i showed a tad bit of persistence, she gave in. that type of game is nothing a forum, a website or anything can prepare you for, that's just having the battle scares of dealing with approaching women and learning how to feel them out.
I went on one date with her and she went back to her BF but that's not the point. I was very proud of myself that night and in general. And when i say she was HOT, she was HOT. a girl iwould jack off to a year ago here i am holding hands with and peteting on a date. and while we didn't work out she told her friend some good things about me and i ended up smashing her a few times.
NOT ONLY is it not hard to get dates, you have good looking women practically BEGGING for men to come along, confidently ask them out and do **** with them. do you realize how many guys just freaking suck? HOW MANY beta males a woman has to put up wtih on a daily basis? how many guys refuse to tell a woman her **** doesn't stink, how many guys have no creativity, no personality, and how women get wet and tingly all over dreaming, hoping, praying a real man would come along, a confident, daring, handsome man? (that's why I am purposely bold in my approaches, the bolder the better)be that man. it doesn't matter how much money you have or don't have, rather you are george clooney or brad pit you are the fvcking **** because you live life as you wish to live it, taking no prisoners on a daily basis. fvck it should be your daily motto. I'm blessed to be pretty well off and have some things that i have always wanted, but that's not why women find me attractive. I'm attractive because i am the ****, and I know i the ****. Everything I do, screams I'm the ****. and women want to be with the ****. starting today, you need to stop talking about it and being about it. whatever "it" is to you, you need to be that.