"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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just asking your opinion about this chick

KinkyMan

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it seems like i have returned to BAFC ways with this girl

yea so im at the point now that with her i dont want a relationship, but i sill want sex ....

-she has clearly stated that she is not interested, but wants to stay friends to find out ... but we still make out big time when we hang out

-uses tons of neg-hits, undependability on me, which sometimes i doubt my ego on ..

-introverted, logical, and most likely really a virgin



so my idea was to basically propisition her telling her that ->
"if we had sex ...
it would not mean that we are together, or mean nothing, i wouldnt stop talking to you (something she says she is worried about repeatedly), and i wouldnt tell anyone"

as it stands she wont let me do anything but feel under her clothes




-yea im attention whoring to you guys, but man am i out of it right now-


thx for responses, no matter how critical, haha
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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MercutioTHEGREAT

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dude your Djing caught in a master's dilemma

it's easy this is what i would probably do

1.try while under her clothes fingering her

2.be smooth and i might ask her how horny are you right now? if she says really horny while making out-you need to go downtown and i mean MUFFDIVING!!


all of this opens her sexually any guy who can eat a girl out right once 95% chances your going to get laid if you continue....you have to progress her yourself..make her interested....Damn i can't wait till next summer it's this HB10 i wanna FvCk SOOO BAD!!! man well you better get that poontang because if it was me i wouldn't be on this site right now i would be trying to get in thoughs legs lolz good luck.
 

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thx for the reply



yea ive tried that, and she is very consistent about not letting me go any farther, it appears the only way is to be a jerk or possibly use her dumb logic, but the latter seems rather silly, but if it would work it certainly would be the most heathy way ......

oh my, see how bafc im acting! im worried about her feelings
 

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You are talking to her about sex... as if it was a bad, unatural thing?

The first step in having sex with ANYONE is allowing them the comfort that sex is a free and beautiful thing that everyone should experience. "I wont tell anyone" isnt the way you want to play this.

Second, you need to get her aroused. Learn to kiss and hold a woman... touch her/arouse her untill she NEEDS sex.

And there is nothing wrong with worrying about her feelings. If you were truely in tune with hre feelings as well as your own you probably wouldnt be asking this quetion right now, youd be ****ing her.
 

Inquire

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u gotta remember, not every chick will like you. my opinion is dont waste your time with a losing battle. move onto the next.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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