"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Just an FTF or Potential Girlfriend?

montybrown

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How do I tell if the girl that I'm messing with is just an FTF or a potential girlfriend? We both do things bf/gf would do like hold hands, hug, kiss, etc. We just had sex last night. But she refers to me as just a friend. I know she talks to other guys too and I always joke with her like she does the same **** with them and she reconfirms with me that she isn't like that and when I told her something about how all the other guys she talks too she says "I've been with you all the time don't I spend more time with you?" something like that to try to reconfirm me that I'm above the rest. But how do I know if we're just in the friends zone and we fvcking or if she really wants to be my girlfriend?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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aliasguy

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Just enjoy the time with her. Don't worry about whether she wants to be your "gf" or not. See other chicks, just like she sees other guys. Don't get all hung up. Have fun. Be cool.

This is an OPTIMAL situation. Appreciate it.




There's a story about a bird flying through a blizzard. He freezes and falls, landing in a field. A cow walks by and sh*ts right on top of him. He thaws out from the warmth of the manure, and is saved. He becomes so happy he begins to sing. A cat hears him singing and comes over and eats him up.

MORALS:

1. Everyone who sh*ts on you is not necessarily your enemy.

2. Everyone who gets you out of sh*t is not necessarily your friend.

3. If you are warm and happy in a pile of sh*t, then KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.


You, my friend, need to heed the third moral. Have fun. Don't get "exclusive." Don't hassle the girl about it at ALL. And get one or two more going. (She probably already does this - and that's ok.)
 

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Don't try to figure it out, ask her. Guys spend too much time analyzing things...cut to the chase and be straight forward.
 

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It sounds like she's doing to you exactly what we teach guys to do in the early dating stages to girls they are interested in. Not really a bad thing at all. Just don't overanalyse, don't get onitis, don't get clingy, don't push things further and just have fun and enjoy yourself.
 

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I am in the same situation :woo: , but it's going on like this for about 2-3 months.I was thinking breaking up with her but now after reading your replys I think I'll keep her :D
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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lol @ aliasguy... my mom used to tell me that analogy all the time as a kid.


But yeah, as some of the other guys said, don't worry about it. You almost sound like a woman griping about lack of commitment. Why are you so ready to give up your freedom?
 

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montybrown said:
How do I tell if the girl that I'm messing with is just an FTF or a potential girlfriend? We both do things bf/gf would do like hold hands, hug, kiss, etc. We just had sex last night.
Until you define what you want in a LTR, you'll never know. Guy's typically never define things beyond wanting to have sex with a woman. Sex alone is not enough of an identifier because you could have sex with a friend, a f-buddy, a ONS, an acquaintance or even someone else's GF. Until you define those unique things that you want specifically in a relationship, you'll never know if you're with a woman worth leading down that path.
 
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