"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Judging Interest Level

ladodger32

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Alright there is this girl Iv been hanging out w/ for a while, and Iv gone out w/ her once, the problem is Im havin trouble determining if she views me as a friend or in a more romantic way...is there any way to ask or find out how she sees me w/o acting completely AFC? Thanks in advance.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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banGbro

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Come to her, take her hands (optional), look her in the eyes for a moment, and ask her "Would you like to kiss me?"

If she says no tell her "I didnt say you could; I just thought you had something on your mind."

If shes not sure, tell her "Lets find out" and kiss her on the lips softly, no tongue.


See how it feels and hows her reaction. If you feel you liked it do it again. Start touching her too, hands, arms, face and hair, back. Take her to your place and continue.
 

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Don't waste time worrying about what she wants (most times they don't know anyway), you have to pursue what you want. Take it in the direction you want - leading will come across as confidence (what chicks want). Men lead, chicks follow.

You clearly like her, so you need to escalate - through kino and then a kiss test. A kiss on the lips is how you determine her interest. Never ask her 'how she sees you'!
 

Snow Plowman

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You know the best way, kiss her. If she does then great if she doesn't then just get the interest higher and then try again.

Point I'm trying to make is Escalate, Escalate, and keep escalting and if she stops you then you know where her interest level is at. (Don't get that stopping mistakened for LMR which you can just do LMR techs to bypass, which happens during foreplay)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If you want to know the answer fast, just touch her boobs, if she slaps you, then she thought of you as a friend, if she grabs your package and starts caressing it, then you are in.
 
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The truth is you need to keep spinning until you find the IOI. I found that this weekend without trying at a conference I went to.

I met this girl early on. At lunch time we reconnect; she asks if I'm sitting with anyone and saves me a seat.

She offers to get me silverware and refill my drink.

When talking we have great eye contact; she asks what movies I like; she notes "we're very similar." We really do have pretty good chemistry.

Later she emphasizes some points by touching my arm and leg. She at one point rubs my leg a few times "to make a point." I lean in and do something similar, the old Kino on the back, side, arm thing.

She comes outside with me during a cigarette break. She invites me to go because she knows I'm a smoker and would want a break between sessions.

She asks for my number.

She gives me big hug and kiss on cheek at end of conference, noting how great it was to meet me and how I need to come out to visit her (in Arizona). We talk today; she returns calls.

All in all, a nice girl and a nice positive experience without the usual run-around when you're trying to force something with someone who is only semi-interested or skeptical. The truth is, there is little doubt when she's interested. Don't waste too much time forcing the issue after the initial attempt to generate and confirm interest. At the same time, I set up date with another girl that I ran into Sunday night and helped a bit with her term paper (she's in college). I'm not getting one-itis, but I am enjoying the initial connection.
 
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