Jordan Peterson: PUA is just "scripted psychopathy"

[FlexpertHamilton]

Even though I do not like PUA myself I think JP is completely out of touch with the modern dating market and men's struggles with it.

 

[JoyDivision1990]

Neil Strauss on The View talking Pick Up, super interesting!

He discusses the opener, which is actually pretty brilliant imo, and the neg.

What's brilliant is not only the approach (which I've never heard discussed before) but the delivery, he does it (or did as this was 18 years ago) in a way that looked completely natural, not fake and contrived.

Here's the interview.

 

[corrector]

Neil Strauss on The View talking Pick Up, super interesting!

He discusses the opener, which is actually pretty brilliant imo, and the neg.

What's brilliant is not only the approach (which I've never heard discussed before) but the delivery, he does it (or did as this was 18 years ago) in a way that looked completely natural, not fake and contrived.

Here's the interview.

Yeah, one of the reason why I'm a good sales producer at my office (ie won back to back awards), is that I 100% follow the script, while my other co-workers don't. My co-workers tell me it makes them sound like a "dead robot", and I often find their way of doing it is more natural.

I stick to the script without deviation on each call, and don't care if someone hangs up on my face. This approach has net me more sales than anyone else.

Therefore, it's the delivery of the script that counts the most. People can tell if you are half-alseep and doing a half-a$$ job at it, or if you are on your A-game and respond accordingly. This sounds like the same concept but applied to women. That's why I think a script/lines are the best for someone with my personality.

 

[All_Kindz_Of_Gainz]

He also believes that buying it with an escort is also a valid notch-count.

But then again, he does not come from the same background of someone swimming in that in their teens and getting into trouble. I think most Gen-Xers and Old-Millenials on here were not popular kids growing up and got into game at some point later in their lives. They all have a "make up for lost time" mindset which informs their beliefs. However, that is not where my headspace is which is a good thing about having religious values.

You believe what you wanna believe and that's fine. I don't believe in any god, people are the ones who di good or bad, and also I don't believe there is a magician in the sky having out best interest.

The only way to improve is to take action, and not letting life happen, I was one of those kids, while I was popular, I wasn't swimming in puz, and I do feel I have to make up, until some point. But I won't change my well being or quality of life for that. And you shouldn't do it either.

 

[corrector]

But I won't change my well being or quality of life for that. And you shouldn't do it either.

Of course.

 

[SW15]

I think JP is completely out of touch with the modern dating market and men's struggles with it.

His single mom daughter is also likely heavily pursued by men.

He was once a Harvard University professor. Elitist professors are usually out of touch.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

That facktard…

if he’s the worlds best blah blah I was on grassy knoll…

Seriously I don’t follow this kind of crap and had heard his name mentioned here, but now looking at him…

Is he the one that began the poisoning the well? I can’t tell you the number of women that know about basic pua moves, and talk about pua’s openly.

 

[YourGreatestFear]

After getting into a relationship and married model Ingrid De La O, he wrote how he struggled to build and maintain a relationship after his years of immersion in the seduction community.

Lol. And without becoming a PUA, he would never ever marry a damn model in the first place. And having a high maintenance woman for an LTR isn't easy to begin with.

 

[eli77]

Not really. The way you're saying is making puz the #1 priority. Have you read The Game? Look what happened with Mystery, Neil, all those guys relocating to those city to get laid, quitting jobs, selling their houses to pursue the puz.

I know many "bad boys" from high school who were swimming in puz, envy of everyone at those ages, they made the puz their deity and now have nothing, no education, a few of them dead, working minimum wage, multiple kids from multiple women, life came collecting all those nights of partying, doing drugs, and now they look 20 years older, with a big gut.

Good point the so-called game peak years after the game book came out. That's why I always love this form and not the other ones at the time like alt.