Jordan Peterson: PUA is just "scripted psychopathy"

[MatureDJ]

 

[CornbreadFed]

L o l

 

[SW15]

So what? Life getting laid is better than life not getting laid.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Is makeup painted delusion?

 

[Bible_Belt]

What are the most valuable things everyone should know?

Jordan B Peterson's answer: Tell the truth. Do not do things that you hate. Act so that you can tell the truth about how you act. Pursue what is meaningful, not what is expedient. If you have to choose, be the one who does things, instead of the one who is seen to do things. Pay attention. Ass...

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That's good. I think he lifted "Do not allow yourself to become arrogant or resentful" from the poem Desiderata, which I only know because it used to be popular to hang on bathroom walls.

If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Desiderata: Original Text

 

[Ricky]

He said that at one point during an interview but later said that PUA wasnt all bad

 

[SW15]

PUA wasnt all bad

PUA is great. Ask Neil Strauss. How else was a 5'6" balding invisible guy going to get laid?

 

[member162951]

PUA is great. Ask Neil Strauss. How else was a 5'6" balding invisible guy going to get laid?

His baldness (shaved head) worked well for him. He had a captivating look and personality and most likely would have done well at seduction without all his PUA strategies.

He wrote in his biography that PUA nearly destroyed him, he had a breakdown and was hospitalized.

After getting into a relationship and married model Ingrid De La O, he wrote how he struggled to build and maintain a relationship after his years of immersion in the seduction community.

The marriage lasted five years. He's the first to admit now that PUA = not so great.

 

[SW15]

His baldness (shaved head) worked well for him.

He shaved his head due to a receding hairline.

most likely would have done well at seduction without all his PUA strategies.

Unlikely. Look at him prior to PUA. He was a guy in his early 30s with a decent status job writing for Rolling Stone. Despite his degree from an Ivy League school (Columbia University) and an above average journalism job, women still thought he was complete shiit.

Mystery and the other PUAs turned him from a zero into a attractor-seducer. Mystery did more for him than his Ivy League did for him.

He wrote in his biography that PUA nearly destroyed him, he had a breakdown and was hospitalized.

He's the first to admit now that PUA is not so great.

He was deprived of sex from his teens until his mid-30s. Once he learned how to get sex consistently, he went far with it. It's understandable how he would feel the need to make up for lost time.

Strauss is one of the most successful PUA students of all time.

After getting into a relationship and married model Ingrid De La O, he wrote how he struggled to build and maintain a relationship after his years of immersion in the seduction community.

The marriage lasted five years.

PUA was not the reason his marriage failed. Strauss has been called a major Thrill of the Hunt seducer (see below). Thrill of the Hunt guys are less well suited for monogamy than Pleasure of Sex men or even the typical normie, blue pill, AFC, beta male.

Thrill of the Hunt Men vs. Pleasure of Sex Men - Alpha Male 2.0

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It's very difficult to have a higher quality monogamous relationship that lasts more than 5 years. Strauss and Ingrid De La O lasted a total of 8 years.

 

[member162951]

Did you read his biography @SW15 ?

 

[member162951]

His shaved his head due to a receding hairline.

So what? It still worked well for him. I've heard many women say they find a man with a shaved head quite sexy.

According to Psychology Today and other reputable sources, it denotes masculinity no matter what a man's reason is and a sort of 'take no prisoners' attitude.

Not giving a crap what others think aka IDGAF which as we all know is quite appealing to the fairer sex.

 

[SW15]

Did you read his biography @SW15 ?

I did not.

 

[MatureDJ]

Shaved head can be as sexy to a woman as a shaved pvssy can be to us.

I'm more a fan of the runway strip.

 

[corrector]

The way you're saying is making puz the #1 priority.

He also believes that buying it with an escort is also a valid notch-count.

But then again, he does not come from the same background of someone swimming in that in their teens and getting into trouble. I think most Gen-Xers and Old-Millenials on here were not popular kids growing up and got into game at some point later in their lives. They all have a "make up for lost time" mindset which informs their beliefs. However, that is not where my headspace is which is a good thing about having religious values.

 

[corrector]

Yay, another religious discussion....

Not really. I'm describing myself rather than starting a discussion. You seem more intent on starting a discussion otherwise why would you pick on that specific line in the paragraph? That is what you are focused on not me.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Even though I do not like PUA myself I think JP is completely out of touch with the modern dating market and men's struggles with it.

 

[member162951]

Neil Strauss on The View talking Pick Up, super interesting!

He discusses the opener, which is actually pretty brilliant imo, and the neg.

What's brilliant is not only the approach (which I've never heard discussed before) but the delivery, he does it (or did as this was 18 years ago) in a way that looked completely natural, not fake and contrived.

Here's the interview.

 

[corrector]

Neil Strauss on The View talking Pick Up, super interesting!

He discusses the opener, which is actually pretty brilliant imo, and the neg.

What's brilliant is not only the approach (which I've never heard discussed before) but the delivery, he does it (or did as this was 18 years ago) in a way that looked completely natural, not fake and contrived.

Here's the interview.

Yeah, one of the reason why I'm a good sales producer at my office (ie won back to back awards), is that I 100% follow the script, while my other co-workers don't. My co-workers tell me it makes them sound like a "dead robot", and I often find their way of doing it is more natural.

I stick to the script without deviation on each call, and don't care if someone hangs up on my face. This approach has net me more sales than anyone else.

Therefore, it's the delivery of the script that counts the most. People can tell if you are half-alseep and doing a half-a$$ job at it, or if you are on your A-game and respond accordingly. This sounds like the same concept but applied to women. That's why I think a script/lines are the best for someone with my personality.

 

[corrector]

But I won't change my well being or quality of life for that. And you shouldn't do it either.

Of course.

 

[SW15]

I think JP is completely out of touch with the modern dating market and men's struggles with it.

His single mom daughter is also likely heavily pursued by men.

He was once a Harvard University professor. Elitist professors are usually out of touch.