"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Jordan Peterson agrees with nofap

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It's hard for me to say fapping is completely wrong, because sometimes people just need a release. Obviously some take it too far... How it affects you I think depends a lot on the individual.

But fapping aside, I do think porn is harmful.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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This is the thing that makes no sense to me about NoFap. People complain that masturbation will lower your testosterone. But I see no logical reason why that wouldn't also be true through regular sex with a female. I've read some people say something about absorbing something from the vagina that prevents it, but that makes no sense to me. For that matter, what if you have an orgasm from a girl giving you a handjob? Is that harmful? How about a BJ?

That said, I do think that abstaining from any sort of sex will increase your testosterone - up to a point.
There's studies on the topic of sex and testosterone, having real sex with a women increases your testosterone 72 percent, while watching women have sex only increases it by 11 percent
 

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There's studies on the topic of sex and testosterone, having real sex with a women increases your testosterone 72 percent, while watching women have sex only increases it by 11 percent
Not calling you a liar, but I'd like to see these studies. Also, is it specifically talking about the point after orgasm? At what point are they measuring the testosterone? And again, I'd like to see that compared with masturbation.
 

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Thought I'd add this as there are still some naysayers saying nofap is a "feminist scheme"

I can't embed the vid but it's on YouTube

He basically says a super stimulus like porn which rewards you with what all males see as the highest priority is a really bad deal and that dudes should steer clear.
Sexless Fapping to porn would make feminist HAPPY. It takes a man out of the mating pool and reduces his sexual power. They do not wanting men having dyck power.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Looked at escort pics and fapped again overnight as I had trouble falling asleep. Doing a trace I think the discussion here, especially from mrgoodstuff in portraying that images on a screen is not really real may have corrupted my thought process. Of course, images are real to the point they are an extension or expression of the heart. The heart has to be corrupted to want to lust or want a woman for sex in order to go at length to fulfill a visual appetite by going on a screen.

According to mrgoodstuff, if there is no real sexual desire, and if there is no real women, then the experience is not real. This is deceptive. At a heart level, what dynamic is occurring in the heart is real to God because God sees you like an x-ray, every second of the day we are being monitored by God. To say it's not real at a heart level or doesn't exist could lead to doubt about the experience and encourage fapping because the conscience is tricked.

We must never lose sight that at a heart-level, there is no difference between a real woman, or a woman on the other side of a screen if some sort of lust is being fulfilled. It may be of a lesser degree, but it doesn't mean it's fundamentally different. This does nothing in terms of having a pure and undefiled heart which would be acceptable to God.
 

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I'm going for day 3 today it's pretty easy now. You get tired feeling like ****
 

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There's studies read them last night, I'm not spoon feeding anyone though
I've seen studies on the effects of sex on testosterone, and I've seen studies on the effects of masturbation on testosterone (many of which contradict each other).

But I haven't seen any studies directly comparing the effects of intercourse and masturbation, which is what I'm interested in. As far as I know, they don't exist.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I tried it a few weeks, I really think it works. If you're in tune with your senses then you will feel the testosterone boost. It's an energy

I remember one time before I had sex with this one woman I asked her, "can you feel that?"

It was so intense that I didn't even want to have an orgasm with her, because I was afraid I'd lose it
Women always marveled at the cascade I'd dump out, just kept on streaming.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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