"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jon and Kate plus 8

thedarkpassenger

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I was checking out at the grocery store the other day, and couldn't help notice all the gossip magazines talking about how Jon Gosselin from Jon and Kate Plus 8 is a sleezebag, scum, cheater, deadbeat father, and more.

I've been watching Jon and Kate for years since it first came out. I'll be the first to admit that I love this show and used to watch it religiously. I am so sick and tired of everything blaming Jon for leaving Kate and for being such as azzhole.

The truth of the matter is, Kate is a horribly abusive partner and a terrible wife. I recently got out of a 5 year abusive relationship. Women don't realize this but when the guy really loves you, you can do some serious damage to his self esteem and ego. I noticed Kate doing this constantly. Telling him he's wrong, nagging him, breaking his balls, castrating him daily. Why didn't he fight back? Because why should he? It's his wife and he has 8 kids to worry about. I don't know if Kate was testing Jon for all these years, or if she's just naturally such a *****...but I don't blame Jon for leaving at all.

Aside from the kids, which I don't think he should have left so easily, his wife really did, as the old cliche goes, drive him into the arms of another woman.

After 5 years of giving everything I have, trying so hard to change and to stop myself from annoying my girlfriend, I never let her give me ****. I always stood up for myself, as I have very high self confidence to begin with. But this takes a toll on you. When every day, she tells you what you're doing wrong. If I do 99% right, and 1% wrong, she'll talk about the 1% for weeks and weeks, killing my ego, and destroying any bit of attraction I used to have for her.

I really do think Jon did the right thing by leaving. I can't stand the media trying to paint Jon as the bad guy, when in reality, Kate treated him like crap, mentally abused him, basically cut off his balls on a daily basis. Was he a bit passive? A little bit of a doormat? Of course. You have to EARN your respect. But it really is difficult to earn the respect of a woman when her default attitude towards Jon is annoyed, frustrated and nagging.

It kills your peace of mind, and every minute is torture. I don't blame Jon for leaving and I wish more people would stand up for him. He's not a bad guy in my opinion. I think Kate brought this on herself. You can't treat someone like crap for years and except them to love you.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Julian

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I stopped reading at "I'll be the first to admit that I love this show and used to watch it religiously."
 

ENIGMA16

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Kate was always a crazy controlling b1tch. She has the ugliest f*ckin haircut, too, and she is not good looking at all. It was a good show before they had to "come up with ideas" which turned into "watch Jon, Kate and their kids do some sh1t/meet some people/mess around with some sh1t that the network paid for/employs!"
 

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Jon's a dumbass for letting his wife push him around like that, whatever. What would be a GREAT show would be Kate trying to get back into the dating scene. I would love to see the chumps they get to date this controlling b*tch with 8 kids. I've seen about 30 seconds of the show, I hate the "family" reality stuff even more so than the MTV reality shows, but watching desperate AFC's trying to get with Kate would be hilarious.
 

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This discussion belongs to "Anything Else".
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Ice882

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Stupidest fvcking thing in the world. Pisses me off so much.
 
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