"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ok Jayer.

You need help....not a big deal....I asked for help and within 2 days got to hang out for a bit with a pretty experienced guy....got 5 approaches done (yesterday)

Yur in New York.....i'd say the PUA community there would be pretty big. You need someone to take you out and show you the ropes a bit.

So if anyone from NY is reading this and is willing to just take Jayer out and show him how its done....well PM him lol.

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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oh another interesting update.

Today in the morning I get a text message from her

"good morning...."

well I reply back several hours later

"good morning, how are you"

she responds back several hours later

"how are you"

I reply back

"Im doing good :)"

Well again, she never called.

I never had anything like this happen. My guess is this girl has low interest in me but maybe is bored? Still it makes no sense, I would expect not to hear anything from her.

Regarding the approaching:

I know I've promised and haven't come through with my 100. I have been very very busy. And I know that is no excuse, but I will certainly set out a date and force myself to do a certain amount of approaches.

Like maybe one day, I'll be like ok, you are going to get 3 approaches done and make sure I do it.

Bare with me every1, I promise this will get done!
 
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So anyway after playing message tag with this chick. I finally called her 2 days ago and she didn't answer. But guess what she actually called back and we had about a 10 minute conversation before she said her phone was dying, but that she'd call me tommorow.

Well guess what? She didnt call the next which is obvious.

She sent me a text the next day after that saying "sorry i was at a baseball game, but you can call me later"

I texted back saying "Ill be home late, what time do you go to sleep"

She said "it doesnt matter just call me at any time"

anyway I called last night and she didnt answer of course. It was like 10:30

She sends me a text this morning saying "sorry i was sleeping"

well I havent called back yet.

I know I shouldnt be playing games like this but this is interesting... I don't get it?
 
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She's giving you a sh1t test to see if you'll give up like the other guys, keep on trying.
 
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yeah.. I called today and she didn't answer. I texted her like a half hour later saying I called.. .and she texted back saying "sorry the music was loud" She never calls back though

what a weirdo!

Also. Someone please comment on my idea of apporaching girls in public I find on myspace???? will those count as cold approaches?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Jayer said:
yeah.. I called today and she didn't answer. I texted her like a half hour later saying I called.. .and she texted back saying "sorry the music was loud" She never calls back though

what a weirdo!

Also. Someone please comment on my idea of apporaching girls in public I find on myspace???? will those count as cold approaches?
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No they wont count as cold approaches because anyone can approach girls on myspace.Serious its nothing but typed words your not talking your just typing to a girl so it doesnt count,unless you want to be a internet player lol

Oh yeah the girl you called she is obviously giving excuses she says the music is too loud,lol umm I think you gotta next her pretty soon:up:
 
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I decided to do this too a couple weeks ago. Got 2 now. Both responded well, one led into an aquantice, the other in just a short friendly conversation.
I don't really care how long it takes. I just want to learn to get in contact with women I don't know at all. I never approached women before so it'll only get better. :)
 
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Ok first of all the myspace thing isn't just sending an internet message. Its finding a girl on myspace and approaching her in person without her knowing me....

Anyway regarding this girl which is the last # I got... I decided to call her again today.. listen to this

I called around 9:30 and she didnt answer... what else is new right?

Well I sent her a text just to be random cause I don't care anymore...

I said

"would you like to get dinner sometime"

She responded back like right away

"yeah dinner sounds great"

I texted her back and was like

"It would be nice if you answered when i call so we could coordinate it"

She never responded...

Go figure!@
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

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Ok first of all the myspace thing isn't just sending an internet message. Its finding a girl on myspace and approaching her in person without her knowing me....

Anyway regarding this girl which is the last # I got... I decided to call her again today.. listen to this

I called around 9:30 and she didnt answer... what else is new right?

Well I sent her a text just to be random cause I don't care anymore...

I said

"would you like to get dinner sometime"

She responded back like right away

"yeah dinner sounds great"

I texted her back and was like

"It would be nice if you answered when i call so we could coordinate it"

She never responded...

Go figure!@
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Approach? I believe the word is stalking, but feel free to add that as a new category under approaches. Something to keep track of. Still glad to see that you are just throwing random **** out on this chick, nice to test things.
 
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Jesus this chick is gaming the **** out of you.

And why on earth did you say "you were really pretty" Your supposed to never mention their looks, and never offer dinner, don't waste the money, go for something like coffee, or something cheap.

Get a free day, and text her, say "i'm running out to pick something up, you coming?"

If the ***** is still acting like that, just hit her up every once and awhile to keep in touch, but move on.
 
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yeah seriously. I haven't called her or texted her since, and niether has she... whatever... I bet this girl has a bf she is like off and on with.

Anyway how is this myspace thing stalking? I would just go up them randomly anyway? is it really a bad idea?
 
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holy mother fker... is that all you've done? i just read this whole thread. i could do like 10 a day easy. i'm at a freakin library and i could talk to tons of them. there is no excuse to of only gotten as many approaches as you in that time. 10 a day is easy. also, lol @ the girl who said "i've only known you for five minutes i dont think so" haha. and the other girl who you tapped on the shoulder asking her name... she said danielle, then you asked her if she had a boyfriend. that's funny **** man. that is so gay to ask if a girl has a boyfriend, like kid stuff pal. the thing is... these short approaches are tricky cause most times a girl will not give a guy her number cause you're still a stranger to them. so it IS tricky stuff... you really gotta impress them. and for christ sake... stop saying the same sh!t "hello whats ur name" "are you single/ do you have a bf?" - get into conversations, don't ask those stupid questions. bring up interesting topics. like i'm in the library, a girl was stacking books on the shelf before and i said "excuse me." she perked up quickly "yeah?" and i said "i noticed alot of new workers here... whats up with that?"

it's as easy as that. a few more mins talking to her i could of got her number. keep goin pal. you got a long way to go.
 
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Yeah I know I know.

I promise I am going to dedicate days to approaching and post!

You are right about establishing rapport before going for the # but the puglsey method makes it easier without psyching yourself out.

I will post anything I do on here regardless of how long the convo is etc...

Regarding the last chick..

I was so bored yesterday that at about midnight I texted her

"So when are you free"

She never responded.. and I erased her number... so this will probably be the last time you heard about this one.

next!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jayer said:
Yeah I know I know.

I promise I am going to dedicate days to approaching and post!

You are right about establishing rapport before going for the # but the puglsey method makes it easier without psyching yourself out.

I will post anything I do on here regardless of how long the convo is etc...

Regarding the last chick..

I was so bored yesterday that at about midnight I texted her

"So when are you free"

She never responded.. and I erased her number... so this will probably be the last time you heard about this one.

next!
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You nexted this girl way too late. My guess is when she's in a bind, and wants someone to go out with, she'll give you a call because she thinks you're in the palm of her hand--and honestly, that's what it looked like from the way things progressed (or didn't, depending on how you look at it)
 
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Why do you want to go to dinner with her?

That's wasting money. And it's boring too!
 
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You should have pinged her. What the hell is this?!?! You've done less than 1 approach every 2 months! I hope this will be the last post in this topic. DO A FUCl<ING BOOTCAMP!

Also, I've got 2 words for you: ****Y & FUNNY!!!
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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