"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Japanese foreigner waste my to

joe45

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Japanese foreigner waste my time
Got a 2nd date today . We walked around dwtn and had ice cream and then nIghtmarket. I did touch on her and she reject it and later 10 min later touch arm on shoulder arm on waist and still while we walking. she tell me she got a bf. I ask her why she meets me and she says as friends. She shows me pic of her and her bf. what a waste of time today. Should have went to poker
She just meet me as a friend.
She is a Japanese foreigner 4 weeks in Vancouver

I ask her why u don't like me and she said yes but as friend. I don't need a friend I dont need bf

She said u look elsewhere but not me. Great u go out with me for nothing. .


She said she don't need bf but just friend


Ur thoughts and advice. Also I'm Chinese. I got feeling Jp girls don't like other Asian guys
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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she probably was using you to keep her company while she was away from her bf.
 

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I think you are right that most japs arent into other asians but nothing is written in stone.

Move on; learn from this experience. Keep trying dont give up :)
 

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What part of

I don't need a boyfriend, I like you as a friend

you didn't understand?


What can't you guys just enjoy a woman's company as a HUMAN BEING every once in a while , instead of seeing them as walking holes to be drilled ALL THE TIME ?
 

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Boilermaker said:
What part of

I don't need a boyfriend, I like you as a friend

you didn't understand?


What can't you guys just enjoy a woman's company as a HUMAN BEING every once in a while , instead of seeing them as walking holes to be drilled ALL THE TIME ?
She's not just a HUMAN BEING...she's a girl that he was on a 1-on-1 date with. Well...he thought it was a date, anyway.

Your argument is coming out of left field.

This isn't a discussion on female friends. This is a discussion on a guy getting friendzoned midway through his 2nd time hanging out with her. It's not like they were old high school buddies or something.

Having female friends = fine.

Finding out that some girl waited until your 2nd "date" to mention her boyfriend = NOT fine

If she wanted to keep things friendly (like a "human being" as you say), she could have mentioned the boyfriend from day 1.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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VladPatton

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Ever notice how Asian chicks are always with a dorky white guy? This is something I've noticed for years. Cut your losses, man Asian girls are pretty hard to game unless they are very Americanized. That's just MY opinion.
 
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